@meowski Past 80 your immune system just can't be helped, there's not much there to train, so vaccines might as well be placebo.
Quarantine is the only reliable way to keep most people alive past that point.
That's what nursing homes are for, and why you don't go into a nursing home if you know you're sick.
As for fraud, I'm well aware of the scale, I worked in the field as a programmer for a clinical research center.
I would estimate that about 80% of studies are a mess.
Not entirely useless, but not to be considered on their own, and taken with a heap of salt.
Some are fraud, most have methodological flaws.
Turns out that isolating any given factor out of all of creation is not a simple task.
As for the standard vaccines.
From flu shots, to Tetanus.
They passed the test of time long ago.
New variations of those however, are a different story.
The Americans and their vaccines are a special case, no one else gives flu shots to kids on a yearly basis.
That's just insane, and can't be anything other than massive corruption that other nations just don't seem to have (besides maybe China).
@meowski "by the time you're that old you have acquired immunity to most stuff like cold and flu" - If it worked that way, old people wouldn't be getting sick.
It's not magic, just the risk vs reward being different for certain age groups.
Risk of death from flu increases sharply, so the 20~40% is worth the risk (provided there is still an immune system to prepare, which after that age group there is not), and long-term downsides don't matter when there is no long-term to consider.
Same reason the elderly are often given stronger pain medication and even addictive substance, because it doesn't matter at that point.
@meowski The devil is in the details.
Here's the study:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.01.30.25321421v3
The test group are clinic employees.
This is very important, as they almost certainly took the COVID-19 "vaccine" that lowers resistance to the flu-like infections in the long term.
"your point is unfounded" - You.
"they simply do not work" - Also you, unfounded.
You're making this claim without evidence, against decades of evidence to the contrary.
"The flu mutates too fast" - correct, that is why the vaccine's efficacy is 20~40% ON AVERAGE.
Some years they get it wrong, so a single year study, in a single region, is largely pointless, on top of the afore mentioned vaxx issues.
@beardalaxy @Terry @whiteman_ Yeah, the real problem is having a job there.
@meowski My point was that you shouldn't be taking those shots event under the assumption that the claimed efficacy is true.
The only people who even can potentially benefit, are those with lowered immunity, but still have some semblance of an immune system.
Under 60, and over 80, need not apply.
@jew Pippa tactics.
I draw, code, and make memes sometimes.