I wanna learn japanese but there's no clear workflow anywhere to start from 
I see that there's workflow 1, and on one place they shit on it and they suggest workflow 2
Then on another place they shit on it and suggest workflow 3
Then they say that it also doesn't work and then they suggest workflow 4
@newt@stereophonic.space
@hideki
i wanted to suggest to you workflow 6, but then I realized, you're just trying 5.
@hideki
Ok.
I heard, It's important to get to get in hours of focused listening to "comprehensive imputs." That means audio as simple as possible, but without subtitles.
ひげ
@hideki idk I got the "learn Japanese or die" games on sale a while ago, I'll probably try it out eventually. Something like memrise wouldn't be a bad starting point either. As long as you can get the basics or a decent amount of knowledge, it'll help you learn more when you try out other methods.
