Hideki @hideki@gameliberty.club
Joined Oct 2020
To be honest any kind of discussion regarding art is difficult because art is very subjetive to each person, but honestly that's no way to carry on a discussion.
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@matana Because only people expert on a field can have an opinion on something we get it.
Look, this is no way to argue, you can say WHY you think i am wrong or you can keep resorting to saying that i don't know what i'm talking about, and you may be right but acting like this won't change my opinion. So we disagree, that's fine, have a nice day.
Speaking of art nomenclature... i WOULD dispute if you can call art what's been called recently "Generative Art"
To me, real art must come with an intent, a purpose and a motive, and generative art is just messing with some variables to see "if something nice comes out of it"
But that's matter for another day.
had a power outage last night and now i need to do a lot of cleanup on the system 
I'm SMH'ing my head
@Elfie how am i going to live now smh
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Ok so i have been fever-free for a day and a half now.
I mean, if you have told me "it's just a cold" there wouldn't have been a problem, but i get a fever out of the blue without any other symptom...
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Jozef Brandt, Chodkiewicz at Chocim (1867)
Ok Matana calm down ok? i think you are misinterpreting my argument.
First of all, i'm not arguing against any particular case, ok? I'm not arguing about YOUR art, YOUR skill or YOUR work, i have to say that because it looks like you are taking personally what i'm saying and that's not the case.
Having said that, I'll repeat my argument AGAIN in hopes it gets my point across this time:
"You cannot call yourself a painter if you do not paint"
This argument does not mean:
"You are less of an artist if you only do digital"
ok "You are not a real artist unless you do analogue pieces of work"
or "Yo don't know jack shit if you use an ipad"
Sure, a painting can be a drawing if we take drawing as leaving traces in a medium in order of conveying una idea. BUT a drawing is NOT a painting. You can make a work of art better than the Gioconda using crayons and a piece of paper, but that's not a painting. And my argument is that there are people calling themselves PAINTERS when they use stuff like Clipstudio or Procreate (or Krita or MSPaint, i'm talking about digital) to make their pieces of work, and TO ME that's not painting.
Look: when you PAINT you have to take into account the materials, the medium, the properties of the material, right? You can paint on stucco, on a canvas, on Plaster, and you have to take into account a large amount of variables when you do works in these kind of situations, and doing it digital takes away all of this, right?
And i'm not saying that because of that, digital art has less of a merit, of course you need a high degree of creativity and skill to pull out something good even if it is digital, the art is not gonna create itself, but the use of the nomenclature is erroneus and some people use it to make themselves look like something they aren't.
>but you are
I'm not, my argument since the start has been "you cannot call yourself a painter if you do not paint"
Simple as that. You can call you an Artist (visual artist, digital artist, etc) or something like that but pining yourself badges that do not mean what they are i think is dishonest.
And you may argue that painting is not about tools but through the history of art, a PAINTER is always asociated with a set of mediums and tools and techinques related to the denomination. The mediums and tools may change depending on the technique but the skill is the same and it's different than to drawing (drawing, meaning using a tool that is not designed to take into account the medium or the materias you are using when doing a piece of art).
If you think that i'm dismissing digital art because i talk about digital tools helping you, i say that, you may do super good artworks in stuff like clipstudio paint or procreate but then you are asked to do the same thing as a mural on a big wall, what you do? And i'm not saying that an analogic artist is better than a digital one. My point is not about skill or creativity, my point is about a denomination of an artist regarding to different medium that have already been stabilished since the start of the history of art.
@matana but that's not painting, thats drawing. Sure you may end up with similar results but at the end of the day you are using tools designed to help you achieve that result with a set of skills that is not the same as the ones that a real PAINT painter needs to have.
I'm not meant to dismiss digital art and the talent behind it, but people cannot use it to argue an equivalence with a set of skill related to analogue mediums. It's like calling myself a guitar player and then discovering that all my tracks are made using FL Studio or Garageband and that i haven't touched a guitar in my life.
Joined Oct 2020
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