@nukie
Probably

@nukie @matrix But that's not because they shouldn't exist, but because we've come to depend too much on cars. Even detroit, after going bankrupt, now is demolishing parking lots and buiding more buildings there

@matrix
But only after we implement as many laws regulating human interaction as possible.

@matrix

the only thing more alienating than capitalism is socialism

@rasterman @matrix
I don't get all of the right wing hate against the cities. I chose to live in middle of huge city, because it offers me 10 times more options when it comes to everything from work, shops etc.

Social interactions are a lot harder, and the living expenses are harder, but I still think the increased earnings are the best option for someone my age right now.

@LukeAlmighty @rasterman Cities are great. I just don't want to be crammed in and inhale fumes. Satellites are often the best.

@matrix @LukeAlmighty >Satellites are often the best What do you know about the moon base?

@rasterman @LukeAlmighty Nothing

@matrix @LukeAlmighty You had me interested for a moment.

@LukeAlmighty @matrix >I don't get all of the right wing hate against the cities Leftists live there. Big cities allow for a degree of parasitism, where one has access to consume from its production disproportionately more than one contributes to it, so parasites are drawn to them. Of course it has its advantages and not everyone who lives in one is a leftist parasite; but those are just observable phenomena and enough of a reason to hate big cities.

@rasterman @matrix
Fair enough

@rasterman @LukeAlmighty @matrix As soon as humans did agriculture, we are drawn to cities. From the sumerian Ur to modern Tokyo, cities exits because they are so convenient and the sheer proximity and density of people allows for more extreme specalizations and cultural niches to develop

@rasterman @matrix Grass is worse for nature than cities (source in a previous comment)