There are a lot more kids exposed to public schools than catholic churches, but yeah. There are significant problems wherever adults and children are exposed to one another. Mothers are the most likely to kill their own babies for example, even post birth.

The problem, imo, is when people fixate on whataboutisms to exclude the cases that affect their tribe/s. If it's a problem, which hopefully we can all agree it is, then let's just fucking fix it. Noose the pedos and monitor the victims (as child abuse is often a cycle) for a generation or two, thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
pedophilia spreads to its victims which is the best case for treating pedos like fucking zombies needing to be disposed of rather than be put through a lifetime of therapy to keep them from biting anyone
Unlike zombies, it's not guaranteed that a pedo bite will create another pedo though. Sometimes it goes the other way, a victim can become a very very motivated pedo killer.

I never advocate therapy, it fails more people than it helps and is full of external agendas rather than solely the patient's wellbeing. I advocate monitoring them, in this situation, especially if they have interactions with children. They are statistically a higher risk to children, but if they haven't done anything it isn't their fault and if they don't do anything then the cycle is broken without killing them.
@Sui @matrix I agree, but there's an effort to paint a false and dishonest image of priests as pedophiles by people who hate the Catholic church. A priest is a very virtuous person who had to study several years and give up his life to serve the church, associating priests with pedophilia is disgusting.
Anywhere adults are in positions of power over children (which is almost all of them, as they're adults not children) there is a chance for abuse to occur. None of the churches are the center of that, but nor are they exempt from it. Divine authority is a hell of a moral difference in power.

Accountability and transparency would help a great deal, the church has neither of those unfortunately. It moves pedophiles around like the police move the bent cops that get caught red handed. Some priests are genuine, I'm not trying to slander them all, but some priests are not. Some are more neutral but have severe mental issues and use religion as a cope, some of those severe mental issues then lead to things like raping children. It's very nuanced on a case by case basis tbh.

A profession does not inherently make someone moral, although one can make someone immoral.
@Sui @matrix >Accountability and transparency would help a great deal, the church has neither of those unfortunately. It moves pedophiles around like the police move the bent cops that get caught red handed.

It's not "the Church" who moved priests accused of pedophilia around, it was bishops from the few dioceses where these crimes happened who unfortunately abused their freedom to manage their churches without supervision, but ever since these scandals started being reported, the Vatican organizes initiatives and policies to protect children and make sure neither abuses nor cover-ups are allowed to happen. The Church does remove these priests, they are laicized and lose their priesthood.

>It's very nuanced on a case by case basis tbh

Most priests are inspiring examples of virtue who tend to the spiritual needs of millions of people across the globe and people are happy to bring them their children to be baptized. I feel like there's this intent on pushing the idea that pedophiles become priests to be able to abuse children, as if they would take on the vows and hardships of being a priest as a trade off, while there is no Catholic tradition or doctrine that gives them the opportunity to abuse children, quite the opposite, the Catholic church has strict policies in place to punish even people who do not report on any abuse happening. Priests obviously have no legal privileges to commit crimes or anything like that either. It's absurd.
@matrix it’s about the same, and about the same as the general pop for both

Just turns out a pretty fixed percentage of people need woodchipper therapy

I remember digging into this chart at one point, and it turned out to be total BS. It was comparing the confirmed cases in the Catholic priest’s cases to the potential cases in public schools. When you compare confirmed cases of priests to confirmed teacher cases, the priests were molesting at higher rates.

That’s not even getting into how part of the scandal was that the Catholic higher-ups, when they found out about the molestation, would protect the molesters from the legal system, and move them to a new area where they would be free to start all over again.

@dave @matrix Shut the fuck up you jannisary for the luciferian system

@matrix can't believe people are using this to defend c*tholics

Looks like it's a case against public schools
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