@LukeAlmighty @matrix
From what I gather, the situation is: "you have a right to bear arms, but you don't get to threaten people".
P.S. "aristic" Where you trying to say "autistic" or "artistic"?
> HHH
> Online Nazi
> Femboy
> Went to a protest looking for trouble
Yup, it all checks out.
Typical MAGAtard who wanted to kill people and then play the victim.
@Aldo2 and a pedophile too
@matrix everyone is a pedo nowadays.
Even you'd be considered a pedo by most people.
@Aldo2 that's true, but I'm using the word properly. He admitted to asking for cp on camera.
@matrix OK?
So another "based right-winger" who supposedly would want to "woodchipper pedos" ends up being a pedo?
I mean, fair enough.
It just makes the "right-wingers" look even more stupid.
@matrix also, I just realized that this idiot is 19.
That means he was 9 years old when I was in my "Alt-Right" phase.
It's amazing how today's "far-right" people are even more deranged than the "far-rightists" back in my day.
And it's not like they have learned from the mistakes of the past. It's actually more like they ignored the lessons and just thought the answer to the mistakes was to double-down.
@Aldo2 I haven't seen him calling to throw pedos into a woodchiper, but yeah yeah I get the point, lot of people who share his opinions would throw him into a woodchipper.
@matrix yeah, but those people also watch loli porn on the dl anyways, like Nick Fuentes fans making posts about huffing their little sisters' panties.
All this "woodchipper" nonsense reeks of projection.
@Aldo2 maybe, but I mainly see the woodchipper posts from various trad or selfie in a truck accounts. I think it primarily reeks of low IQ, because they're rarely about actual pedophiles.
@matrix I think we need to check these Trucker's HDs to confirm haha
I bet we'd find all kinds of "degenerate" "kinky" and even "criminal" porn on that stuff.
Have you ever heard about truckstop bathrooms?
@matrix whenever I get brigaded by Post/Detroit/Varish etc... "right-wing lolicon" types they almost always devolve into "woodchipper pedonigger", so.....
@Aldo2 I guess, I haven't been reading fedi that much lately.
But the difference is that you're a pedophile, not a 19 yo sexting a 17yo.
@matrix I dunno, I think some of them (Poast/Varis/Detroit) are at least over 20.
And they want to lower the AOC to 14, making them by legal and clinical definition a "MAP". While claiming that they aren't MAPS and saying that if you mutually and consensually sext with a 14 year old then you're an "abusing rapist" or whatever.
Like I said, projection.
Fuentesites (like Beardson Beardly, who is definitely over 25) argue that the AOC should be 10 following some obscure Catholic law.
Etc... etc... etc...
Point is, there's nothing inherently wrong with pedophilia, which I genuinely believe that more and more and more people are concluding.
There IS something wrong with being a "right-wing" schizo nutjob who wants to murder people at a peaceful protest (1st amendment) and then claim they were a victim of "Marxist AntiFa Islamist violent rioters" or whateverthefuck.
@Aldo2 Oh, I remember now. Fuentes did indeed say it's trad to marry children. Yeah, any groomer or woodchipper talk is projection from him/his simps.
MAP is a really retarded term and I think it is pushed with ulterior motives, because it's both a rebranding and it lumps together hebephilia and pedophilia, which are different degrees of bad.
There's obviously something wrong about being a rw schizo nutjob, but bad behaviors and traits tend to cluster ie it's not really shock that the schizo nutjob who tries getting into a "self defense" situation also likes kids.
@matrix if I told you that 20% of (mostly European) Australian men were at the very least MAPs (by definition, meaning they are attracted to people under the AOC, meaning "minors") what would you think?
Would you say 20% of the male population of Australia should be institutionalized, or would it cause some reflection and introspection?
This 20% is not based on political affiliation at all, and as we've just seen anyways, Australia voted for an anti-Trumper recently.
@Aldo2 I vaguely remember that survey, but I don't remember if they asked aoa. Like I said there's a difference between being attracted to prepubescent and pubescent features. While hebephilia seems to be to some extent a part of male sexuality, I see no reason why sexual attraction to someone unable to reproduce should be considered normal.
Probably over 50% of drivers, but it doesn't
@matrix yeah they did.
They asked men if they would have sex with a 14 year old, a 12 year old and a 10 year old, EVEN IF it was illegal ("if no one found out").
They also asked about sex with 15-18 year olds, and of course many men said "yes" to that, too.
In many European countries the AOC was like 12 in the 1970's, I don't know what you're on. This is just assuming everywhere has always been like America. News flash, Matrix, America is forcing this on everyone. This is not natural or normal. This is artificial. Japan only recently outlawed "CP" in 2014, after heavy American pressure.
The ability to reproduce is not an arbitrary thing that just "occurs" once you're over 12. "Early Bloomers" are a thing for one, and why do you again assume that having a relationship with a member of the opposite sex automatically entails wanting to "reproduce"? This is the same way as saying that "consent" is a thing that just magically happens at 16 or 18.
It was like on average 10% for wanting to have sex with a prepubescent, and around 20% when you factor in all "minors" (under 18, which is the AOC in Australia).
@Aldo2 I wanted to make a point but fell asleep midway lol.
The point I wanted to make is that even though a large amount of people drive over the legal speed limit and that the speed limit and enforcement of it is to some extent arbitrary, it doesn't negate that driving at higher speeds is more dangerous.
I agree that Americans are retarded on sex (and other things) and push that retardation onto other places, but not everything they push is retarded.
I don't know the history of AoC but I do know that around the 70s pedophilia was a social justice cause so how was it before that? and I also know that in the past in Europe, while you could marry children, that was primarily done by nobles for power reasons and the average age for marriage was early 20s.
>"relationship doesn't equal reproduction"
No, but a sexual relationship does. Arousal is a feeling that we have to motivate reproduction. Being aroused by something/someone that can't reproduce isn't normal behavior.
Did the survey ask if the attraction is exclusive?
To answer your previous question about institutionalizing 20% of the population, no, just the ones who act.
Men have quite a strong propensity towards violence and often have violent fantasies, but we only lock up those who act on it in (usually harmful) ways.
@matrix driving at higher speeds is more dangerous in certain specific circumstances, that is why you are allowed to drive at high speeds on the highway but not on regular pedestrian roads.
German Autobahn moment (no speed-limit).
In the 60s-70s it was a social justice issue (along with all types of other social justice causes) because of Conservative Christian Puritanism (CCP lol) being imposed on Europe (again, mostly from America and the United Kingdom) in the wake of WW2. In the Dutch case I was reading a study that pointed out the irony of the "sexual revolution" actually being led by religious figures who were tired of the religious moralistic dogma regarding sexuality.
It was done by nobles in like the 1700's haha, I'm talking about the 1900's. Slightly different times.
Yes, the average age of marriage was 20, that doesn't mean the AOC was 20.
> Being aroused by something/someone that can't reproduce isn't normal behavior
Why do you get "aroused" while looking at loli porn of "single-digits" then? That's pedophilia, but as you say you can't reproduce, so why are you "aroused"? There has to be another reason, and that reason is obviously just "pleasure". You like looking at the pictures because you get a boner and you like the feeling of cumming. That is normal. It's strange that you'd imply that it was abnormal. Even chimps jack off.
Linking arousal with reproduction is a Christian Puritan morality thing that is designed to limit sex and pleasure. "Don't spill your seed on the ground" - Genesis 38.
I think it implied that it was "non-exclusive", but that's neither here nor there, as I'm also "non-exclusive" (Danni Ashe is a goddess) yet I aknowledge my attractions in all cases.
> Just the ones who act.
In what way? You earlier implied that hebephilia is something most (i.e. over 10-20%, right?) men share. You link "action" with "violence", but as you and I both know, "consent" can be given below the official "age of consent", and often is (on the dl, "if no one found out"). Are you saying "statuatory rape" is as "violent" as actual rape? We all know that's false.
What are your views on the cases of female school-teachers being in totally consensual relations with their students? Are they "violent" for "acting" on their desires? Or is it different because they can get pregnant and therefore the Christian morality (this time centered on Patriarchy) checks out?
@matrix I think I've got an even better hypothetical.
Say you, as a man, wanted to impregnate your girlfriend (no specific age requirement here), but she didn't want to get pregnant.
If she went on the pill or got an abortion, does that therefore mean that she doesn't love you or isn't "aroused" by you?
No, of course not.
Does that mean you'd not be "aroused" by her (because you know you can't procreate as long as she's on the stuff, which is up to her to change)? Also, no.
It means she's not ready but still wants to spend time with you, because you pleasure her with your presence.
"Love" = Mutual pleasuring.
Really quite simple to understand, tbh.
Voltaire was right, Hedonism beats Christcuckery.
McCreeaboo 
@matrix
You have right to bear arms, unless you're aristic...
I fucking hate this world.