fuck spinster

@tuxcrafting what even is it

@nik @tuxcrafting TERF instance, Extremist Feminists (the kind people love to make fun of), but as a bonus they also hate trans people

@Meeper @nik @tuxcrafting

- Out of 8,000+ users I've witnessed about 2 who genuinely hate trans people. There are a number of trans users on the site (transsexuals, mostly) who want more freedom to have the full conversation about gender.

- The discussion happening on Spinster right now is about porn being linked to sex trafficking, which is a horrible reason to hate it.

@alex @Meeper @nik >only 2
mate basically every user there that i had an interaction with hates trans people

@tuxcrafting @alex @Meeper @nik Yeah that’s not my experience with it. So many posts I saw were talking about “men invading womens spaces”. Nah, its a pretty terrible place.

However, I’m pleased that Alex runs the site (because its funny that a man runs the feminist site) and also that it contains them in a nice little box.

@shebang @Meeper @alex @nik it's like FSE, keeps crazies in a nice little blockable place so they don't metastase everywhere

@tuxcrafting @shebang @Meeper @alex @nik

> I've witnessed about 2 who genuinely hate trans people.

Never been a huge fan of #Spinster as a whole but I've found some nice users from there more recently. A big problem I'd run into would be the user I try to engage with is sexist and hates men; as soon as I replied to their messages, they'd accuse me of "mansplaining" and block me lol...far more people on that instance hate men than hate trans people

But again, that's not everyone, just my initial experience. My experience with the users is a bit better now.

@realcaseyrollins @tuxcrafting @shebang @Meeper @alex @nik they hate trans people because they consider them men.

Trans women ARE men. But nobody hates trans people as much as their supporters tell them they do 🤷🏼‍♀️

Wanting protection for women’s rights isn’t hating trans identified people 🙄

@mewmew @Meeper @tuxcrafting @realcaseyrollins @alex @nik @shebang

@Ladyfat @Meeper @tuxcrafting @realcaseyrollins @alex @nik @shebang ...what?

@mewmew @Meeper @tuxcrafting @alex @nik @shebang @Ladyfat

> nobody hates trans people as much as their supporters tell them they do

I'm sure some do, but it's greatly exaggerated as far as its prevalence.

Nah their supporters literally say “everyone wants you dead” the whole movement relies on hyperbole and over exaggerating death rates. It’s that low.

@realcaseyrollins @mewmew @Meeper @tuxcrafting @alex @nik @shebang

@Ladyfat @realcaseyrollins @Meeper @tuxcrafting @alex @nik @shebang strawman argument

Transperbole @mewmew @Meeper @tuxcrafting @realcaseyrollins @alex @nik @shebang

@Ladyfat @Meeper @tuxcrafting @realcaseyrollins @alex @nik @shebang I don't care what some random people on Twitter think, I care about your toxic ideology. Other people's responses to it aren't relevant here. If your only defense is "look at how crazy some people who disagree with me are", you're not making a good argument.

Sweetie I’m not on twitter .

Why would “women are adult human females” be ‘toxic ideology’ to anybody other than science deniers? @mewmew @Meeper @tuxcrafting @realcaseyrollins @alex @nik @shebang

@Ladyfat @Meeper @tuxcrafting @realcaseyrollins @alex @nik @shebang because it's using the terms in a way that is not useful?

Because it hurts men’s feelings? @mewmew @Meeper @tuxcrafting @realcaseyrollins @alex @nik @shebang

@Ladyfat @Meeper @tuxcrafting @realcaseyrollins @alex @nik @shebang no, because it's not accurate to how many people actually live.

it seems like the only reason to define it your way is because doing otherwise would hurt your feelings.

@mewmew @Meeper @tuxcrafting @alex @nik @shebang @Ladyfat Sorry facts hurt your feelings, bro.

Science doesn't care about how people live, it's just science. People try and ignore it if they want, but that doesn't change science.

@realcaseyrollins @Meeper @tuxcrafting @alex @nik @shebang @Ladyfat it's not about science or facts hurting my feelings. "science doesn't care about how people live" is just flat-out untrue. how people live is something that can be studied and understood. is depression unscientific? or anxiety? just because it's "about how people live"?

@mewmew @Meeper @tuxcrafting @alex @nik @shebang @Ladyfat

> how people live is something that can be studied and understood.

Yes but it doesn't change the definitions of male and female based solely on subjective feelings tho

@realcaseyrollins @Meeper @tuxcrafting @alex @nik @shebang @Ladyfat so? if you wanna define female or woman as "people born with a vagina" you can do that if you want, but that's not actually considering scientific evidence which shows otherwise. just unnecessarily pedantic.

@mewmew @Meeper @tuxcrafting @alex @nik @shebang @Ladyfat

"Chromosomes aren't real"