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@dave I guess. All the same, no one should have attacked her or even been looking in the first place.

@djsumdog @realcaseyrollins Same here. The fact that there are opportunists and people rioting has really detracted from the message of the protests. Police brutality is a real problem that needs addressing, but this isn't the way to address it. It's just the way to get free shit, vent some frustration and leave everyone else to clear up after you.

Not to mention that it makes the place seem less safe, and could put people into further poverty. Especially if there need to be bailouts, taxes paid to clean up public property. Peoples livelihoods can be destroyed, lots of money lost for small businesses. Sometimes even lives can be harmed.

how much do people know about encrypted trunked communication on here? i assume it's just DES or sth. could you grab a cop's radio and dump the keys? how hard would that be? do they rotate them? etc

@sim @realcaseyrollins You know .. if it was just the horns and afterwards, and you could walk into a store the next day and everything was cool .. I would try to understand. But it was horns .. and then everything went to fucking shit. Cop cars on fire. Trains shut down. Everything that didn't get looted is now boarded up.

@dave Yeah I saw that. Maybe it was a weight thing; she appears obese, maybe she didn't have the strength to stand for long periods of time.

> Wasn't she on video trying to stab people?

Yes; she was blocking looters' way as they attempted to rob a . I haven't seen footage of her actually stabbing people, but that's what people are saying.

@djsumdog @realcaseyrollins Seriously, was thinking about this today—got some buddies that participated in all this and blocked a highway. That's not doing *anything* to get people to sympathize with your message or agenda…it's just making people hate you because it's fundamentally an asshole thing to do. Becoming a nuisance to society isn't a productive form of protest and it eradicates support people might otherwise give you. The same can doubly be said for looting, arson, vandalism, assault, etc.. I know many people who were totally appalled at the actions of the officers in Minneapolis—calling for them to be arrested, charged, and made example of. Now, those same people are openly supporting draconian measures by government and law enforcement against these protesters/rioters because they're tearing cities apart. The actions of the antiestablishment managed to 180º many people's support. It makes no sense to behave the way they're behaving if they genuinely want people to listen to/support their message.

@sim @realcaseyrollins I think it's more difficult to do peaceful protests. You have to convince entire groups to not give into violence. MLKing was able to pull it off. Gandhi not so much, but then he'd starve himself and everyone would get back into line.

King let the nation watch his people get abused by firemen and attacked by dogs. It was cruel .. but the people listened.

I heard this bullshit for 2 hours Saturday with a splitting headache, fell asleep, and awoke to find the city on fire.

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