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@jeff@pl.i2p.rocks @pasture IDK much about 4chan but I feel like a cross between neckbeard and pl.smuglo.li would be appealing to 4channers

Conservatives refuse to fend for themselves

They will be eaten alive if alt righters and classical liberals don't come to their aid, although I definitely believe that they will

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should i try to get the nvidia proprietary drivers to work

Conservatives are more politically correct but the culture of classical liberals and the alt right have been attractive to me because unlike mainstream conservatives, they have at least some semblance of courage

Like at least they are willing to stand for what they believe in

Classical liberals speak out, alt righters speak out and sometimes go outside

Everyday conservatives hide in their house and stay silent for fear of their lives

@alex @issdeinschnitzel @igel @fixpoint Does it mean you have morals tho?

Like having sexual organs is a prerequisite to having sex but I'm a virgin, so clearly one doesn't necessarily lead to the other

@alex @igel @issdeinschnitzel @realcaseyrollins it invites too many questions about the nature of moral value: where does it come from, is it equal in all individuals.

a simple trait one can come up with is moral agency, which we generally consider to be absent in animals. but moral value being dependent on moral agency seems like a circular argument, so p1 is very, very flawed.

@issdeinschnitzel @alex @igel @fixpoint Wait I just realized something; is there evidence that animals are moral, or have a moral complexity approaching that of humans?

@alex @issdeinschnitzel @igel IDK a lot of people think the incestuous are contemptible and borderline subhuman.

Plus, if we're going to be logically consist, the same moral code should exist for both humans and animals anyway. Like if humans and animals are the same there should be the same level of disgust or apathy for incest in both cases.

Either we have the same rules for all species, or we don't.

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