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@realcaseyrollins @shebang @jojo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anarchist_communities

The list isn't short, nor is every instance recognized.

@realcaseyrollins @jojo I don’t think it does anyone any good to encourage the delusions these people have that CHOPAZZLE was somehow a separate country for a few weeks, or indulging them in their fantasies of violent anarchy. They like to take words and change their meanings, in order to justify themselves — my dog in this fight is I’d rather well-intentioned people didn’t aid them in that.

@kino @shebang

Just as there are different instances of government, there are also different instances of anarchy. The tensions that cause conflicts would do so in either case. (Is Somalia less violent with an official state?)

In both cases the pragmatic approach is to treat the world as if it were anarchist anyway. e.g. "I own a gun because I don't want to wait for the government response."

I argue that the chaos and volatility that you're attributing to anarchy are actually coming from the political structure shifting. In cases where the structure is imposing more, it's directly manifest -- cops forcing people to follow laws, etc. In cases where the existing structure fades too quickly the individuals have to adjust to the new reality drastically, and there's a flurry of imposition as new structure emerges and existing struggles can be expressed, but if the structure is repealed with intention, and in proportion to the ability of the individual to self-sustain, I don't think you would see the same chaos.

@realcaseyrollins @jojo My only disagreement would be that the governing authorities did exist, in the form of the Mayor and Governor, but they chose not to act specifically for reasons of maintaining their power within the sect that agrees with the insurgents.

@realcaseyrollins @tuxcrafting @shebang @jojo

Anarchy only describes the formal power structures, it doesn't dictate peaceful or violent, and you will find both. Somalia has been a poster-child for violent anarchy for a long while, while peaceful communities of anarchists are not even rare.

@realcaseyrollins @jojo I would say some of the individuals were anarchist, in a manner similar to anarcho-Christian practices, but many of them seemed to be insurgents with no declared political preference, yet the weapons to enforce the leadership of their chosen leader (Raz in some cases, the heavyset motherly nurse in other cases, and I think there was a third.) But even if their principles were anarchist, the CHOPAZZLE itself remained dependent on its enclaving city the entire time.

I was homeless in Seattle for a few years. Slept rough until they convinced me to accept housing, just 8 blocks south of where the CHAZ took place. I knew that area well, very very well. Aside from the barricades and an increase in graffiti, I don’t think CHAZ changed the politics of Capitol Hill at all — when it became CHOPAZZLE, they kept on doing things by-committee and adapting as new complaints arrived, even if it inhibited their ability to continue helping everyone.

The man who hit two Black Lives Matter protesters on the freeway in Seattle is a black man. Left-wing activists on social media claim without evidence that the incident was a Charlottesville-style far-right attack. Both victims sustained serious injuries. https://apnews.com/741b01da9ce010717df1afca30afe09e https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1279458538075549696 #Charlotte #Protesters #Seattle

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@realcaseyrollins @shebang @jojo uh yes? you're always gonna need an army, especially when your threat model includes the ussr, and like everything else was handled in an anarchic way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7qT-C-0ajI
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Could you explain in three or five sentences how real anarchism would work? I think freedom is good, but I doubt anarchism would work.

I just opened a Feature request on GitHub, what do you think? #Mastodon

https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/issues/14210