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@judgedread @Simpadoo @alex A bit much. But they all need to be behind bars for like 10 or 15 years if they've done any violence. And still serve multi year sentences for being in the group.

@judgedread @alex @realcaseyrollins The Prince must always appear to be virtuous and noble but to be so in reality would invite ruin.

Conservatives have been loosing ground for decades due to this mentality that makes them fight with their hands tied behind their backs.

I would wait and see what the truth is because, like most videos, we lack the context. We only see what the publisher of the video wants us to see.

I’m on the fence wether it’s arrests to do renditions or extractions of their infiltrators. Both would explain the videos.
@alex @realcaseyrollins I think the antifa are trying to set off a 1917 revolution and I favor limitless tactics to stop them because if antifa win they will be coming to my house to murder me.

@alex @realcaseyrollins I respect anyone who's willing to talk to people from opposing viewpoints without resorting to strawmen and name calling, even if I disagree.

@alex @realcaseyrollins Hmm. A political thread that doesn't make me want to throw my phone across the room. I like Mastodon.

@Moon @alex @issdeinschnitzel

Who defines and enforces legality? We've seen a clear line of when it will be enforced: If you tear down a statue you will be fine, if you smudge the BLM paint on the literal street they will find you.
@alex @spaceman

It's very important the government is following the law. I just don't belive anything "protestors" are saying. They are lying on video with footage direct contradicting their lies.
@issdeinschnitzel Absolutely not, Antifa are basically domestic terrorists. I agreed with that a long time before this. But we can't just let the government do whatever they want, either. "The people should not fear the government, the government should fear the people."
@spaceman @alex

I don't live in Portland, but the videos I see show rioting "protestors", so I don't think the government is escalating this.
@alex

Don't believe CNN. It's pretty clear they are not anonymous forces, but DHS agents.
@realcaseyrollins I think we generally agree on the way things should be handled, but have a different take about what's actually happening and how bad it is.

@namark

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@alex

> they should absolutely identify themselves

Hmm, well they're outfits are clearly marked, so it's easy to tell that these are federal officers. Is there something else you would like them to do? It doesn't seem like what they're doing now violates any sort of law, that I'm aware of.

Source: criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-

> instead of going around vanning people in unmarked cars.

I would like this too. I think they might be using unmarked vehicles to avoid attacks on their vehicles, that have become commonplace on the vehicles used by law enforcement.

However, it's not illegal to use unmarked vehicles.

> do you value transparency in government?

This is a good point. I'm pretty sure these officers are going after , but it would be great to have an official explanation as to why these people are being detained. Something like, "we're arresting people because they're part of a terrorist organization" or "we're arresting people because they were committing acts of violence" would be nice.

Antifa boys all look like Jared Loughner. Andy Ngô: Jeremy Edwin Vajko, 27, of Washington state, was arrested again at the violent antifa protest in downtown Portland. He is frequently seen driving around in a "BLM" van & giving resupplies/aid to the rioters. archive.vn/g5obh twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/ #Coulter #Portland #Washington

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