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So apparently, there are riots going on in Romania and it's because a truly independent presidential candidate won the first round of elections, despite not being on the ballot, yet he had his victory voided, despite the Romanian courts initially accepting his victory.

I don't know much about this guy, but he actually and surprisingly does seem genuine. He is 100% anti-COVID vaccine, against funding Ukraine (while also not being pro-Russia), and is skeptical of both the Apollo moon landings and 9/11.

courthousenews.com/romania-cra

I mean, wow! I never would think a truly independent candidate would get that far in this day and age, but it shouldn't be surprising that the courts would void the election. Now people are taking on to the streets about it.

I'd say to keep an eye on the situation. Things might get interesting.

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I worked with a Romanian girl who was all for this. She bought the narrative from her media saying the elections had to be stopped because the judges found evidence of "Russian Interference." The elections from last year have been rescheduled for May. It's fucked up.

@djsumdog @xianc78 apparently the "Russian interference" is that Russia paid for a few tiktok ads for him or something like that

@djsumdog @xianc78
What if I told you, one of Georgescu's close allies was found to have called the Russian embassy and tried to contact a Russian military official?
We still don't have the full picture of what was the Russian interference during the 2024 elections, but slowly it starts looking plausible that there's something up with Georgescu and Russia.
We might end up being the exception to the "rule" of "any mention of Russia is propaganda lies from the mainstream".

@xianc78 The Romanians I talk with say he is pro-Russia and mainly won due to a horrible turnout. They won't comment on whether or not nullifying the election is justified (they're not anxious to let Russian interests run the show again but aren't excited about the arbitrary response either) but they don't like the guy at all. Considering how the pro-Russia party in Georgia is behaving, Russia taking a "co-prosperity sphere" approach to hegemony where they back "nationalists" that advocate for a divorce from the West in the name of self-determination, and then sell the country out to Russia at first glance appears to be what's happening, and this guy's following the playbook.

@mrsaturday @xianc78
>They won't comment on whether or not nullifying the election is justified
The thing is, we legit don't know if it was justified or not. The public wasn't given enough evidence to make a judgement on whether Russia's influence had an effect or not.

Though, there is another reason why some measure might have been necessary either way. Georgescu has undoubtedly committed campaign finance violations, as he has reported that he spend $0 on his campaign. Declaring something like that in official documents is so outrageous that you don't really need any evidence to know he committed fraud. I don't know what the appropriate response to something like that could be, but I don't think letting someone win in these conditions is right either.

@xianc78
Romanian here.
>won the first round of elections, despite not being on the ballot
No, he was on the ballot. He was just an unknown candidate, that had maybe 5% in the polls, and got 23% of the final vote, a lot of which actually came from voters outside the country. We have a large number of Romanians living abroad.

>yet he had his victory voided, despite the Romanian courts initially accepting his victory.
We have several steps of certifying an election result. First comes the Central Electoral Bureau, which gave their ok. But then came the Constitutional Court, that supposedly received info from secret services and other law enforcement organizations that said there was Russian meddling, so this court voided the results.
The problem is that the public never got access to the full info, so it's unclear how far the Russian meddling really went, and if it cancelling the election was justified or not.

>I don't know much about this guy
Frankly I don't follow on what he thinks much either. But so far he doesn't seem genuine to me. He pushes a lot of platitudes and empty religious/spiritual phrases to appeal to the 90% Christian audience.
He definitely seems to be a bit anti-NATO/EU. Not quite enough to try to take us out, I think, but maybe just enough to hurt diplomacy.
But I'm not sure about him not being pro-Russia.

One big point of contention with him now is that it was found that several years ago, in an interview, he named as "heroes" a few leaders of a Romanian WW2 fascist organization, the Legionary Movement. So now he's currently being prosecuted, with accusations such as promoting war criminals, promoting an extremist ideology, antisemitism. I don't know where the antisemitism accusation comes from, I haven't managed to find that, but most of the rest seem to stem from that interview.

He's also being prosecuted because he committed campaign finance fraud, as he declared he spend $0 during his campaign, which is obviously false.

Another problem is that several accomplices close to him seem to have been preparing for a coup. One of them was caught with massive amounts of guns (which are pretty much illegal here), and was caught trying to contact a Russian military official. He's also accused of forming a fascist organization and a paramilitary group.
Another guy, just yesterday, apparently texted in a mercenary group that people need to go out with axes, guns, things that can be used as weapons, and protest. Basically inciting a riot.

There's A LOT of weirdness going around Georgescu, and ties to Russia seem very likely.

You're right that things are getting interesting. Last week and this week is when presidential candidates need to register to run for the election redo in May. And once again, after they register, the Central Electoral Bureau decides if they're allowed to be on the ballot. And they just decided the other day that Georgescu cannot run for presidency, citing a precedent from the Constitutional Court from last year, when they forbade a different candidate, because her views were against the Constitution. But most people agree that this was a bad decision and precedent, so we're stuck in a bad place. You can appeal a decision against your right to run for elections at the Constitutional Court, and Georgescu did appeal. We're now waiting for the decision. But considering they set the precedent, I don't see how he could win.

It is very likely that Georgescu is a Russian stooge. It is very likely that there was severe influence in the election last year. And I'm not even sure if Georgescu legit planned on winning the election. I wouldn't be surprised if what he really wants is to create complete chaos, and then to a coup and take over power in the middle of that.

But at the same time, a lot of the measures being taken to stop Georgescu have been... potentially extreme, and not justified to the public. It is possible, that in a few years time, looking back, we'll see things as just. But currently, the accusations are not being backed up with enough evidence. At best you can say that authorities are doing the right thing, but for wrong reasons. At worst you can interpret it as tyranny.

Oh, and to add on the fun, authorities recently arrested a different group of individuals for planning a coup, and overthrowing the political system. And they're also accused of having ties to Russia. So things are really really bad and unstable right now.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Rom

Believe it or not, this was me doing a summary of things.

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