xianc78 @xianc78@gameliberty.club

@udon @TerminalAutism @digdeeper This investor that controls the entire so-called "free market" is basically all you need to know to answer your question.
So yes, investors means government.
Money laundering on the one hand, and controlling propaganda on the other hand.
Just look how every single company that started receiving BlackCock's money all of the sudden went woke, started supporting rainbow terrorism, stopped caring about quality and instead went profit-only mode, and so on.

https://www.weforum.org/organizations/blackrock-inc

Neither has real socialism since there's always some kind of market forces.

That said, we don't need pure market economies or pure command economies to draw conclusions about which is better. Highly market economies and highly command economies exist, and when we compare like with like, the market economies produce more wealth and generally allow people to live more fulfilling lives.

This is not to say that markets solve every problem or command economics are the source of every evil, but markets are still a dominat strategy.

@charliebrownau @TerminalAutism @digdeeper No to all.
In capitalism, when you make a profit, you win, but if you lose, your problem.
In soycialism, when you make a profit, everybody else wins, but if you lose, everybody else's problem.

What corporations in current year are is a very special kind of double standards; when you make a profit, you win, but if you lose, everybody else's problem.

@ryo @TerminalAutism @digdeeper

Real Captialism hasnt been attempted yet

Is Capitalism :-
* Payment using State forced Banking/Currency
* State Forced Regulation
* State Forced Rules
* State Forced Safety
* State Forced Licenses

Is Capitalism :-
* State Forced Min wage
* State Forced Income Tax
* State Forced Wage Tax
* State Forced Payroll Tax

Is Capitalism :-
* State Forced Pregant Pay
* State Forced Holiday Pay
* State Forced Sick Pay

@TerminalAutism @digdeeper
> but were built to last for as long as possible

Literally everything was made to last for as long as possible in the 20th century.
One example, Japan has never been under commie control, and yet companies have made stuff that are still in use perfectly fine today, like trains, and you'll find far more examples in the countryside, which often look like they've never been updated since the 1960s.

Even stuff that are no longer in widespread use, like the Famicom or old IBM incompatible NEC computers can still be caught at Akihabara and can still be used perfectly fine today.

Software-wise, come up with 10 games from between 1980 and 2006 that were considered good, you'll probably have your list overflowing in a matter of seconds.
Now think of at least 4 games from between 2007 and current year, difficult to pick anything right?

However, I do agree with the part when you said that current year proprietary soyware always needs to be bloated and always needs to break, it's the type of stuff I've been calling out for many years now.
I need to go through interviews all the time because I'm a freelancer.
Companies always want me to conduct them over either Zoom or Goolag Meet.
Whenever I bring up Jitsi Meet, they just ignore it like if it doesn't even exist.
Usually they'll use either Slack or Chatwork as a communication tool (because telework), when I bring up internal XMPP servers, it's "too difficult".
And when I use a Linux laptop at a client's office, they go like either "what is a Linux?", or "are you from outer space or some shit?".

@digdeeper @TerminalAutism Once companies get investor money, they are no longer going to give a fuck about the customers, because whether they make good stuff or not, they'll get their profits regardless.
So if we get rid of the investors, which is really the parasite that destroys economies in the first place, you can easily make a world a better place without having to resort to stealing money from everybody else (soycialism) or slavery + sucking the poor dry to enrich the rich (communism).

I recommend you take a look at the documentary called "Monopoly", I think you'll get to the same conclusion after seeing that.
I actually lived in times where quality really mattered in order to make a profit, even though I was still a child at that time.

@digdeeper @TerminalAutism In principle, capitalism is quality = profit.
So if you make good stuff, you get paid for how much it's worth.
But if your stuff is shit, you'll be kicked off the market.
But since your average consoomer is retarded and they know it, they can pull this soycialist fake "capitalism" of "profit first, quality is an after thought".
Just look at Crapple for example, even if they'd literally made 💩 and put an logo on it, it'd still sell like hot cakes.

In the case of organizations like the FSF, that's indeed something that should have been run by people with lots of free time (or on the side).
Investors is what always destroys good initiatives, good businesses, good groups of people, good everything.
Capitalism (freelancers, small businesses, and independent entrepreneurs) isn't the problem, the investors are what's making capitalists into a problem (massive bloated corporations, and government bootlickers).

@TerminalAutism @udon @digdeeper
> Government should only exist for the purpose of preventing that.

Governments only exist for the purpose of becoming bigger and more powerful.
Which is why I think that bringing people to self-governance (anarchy) and dropping all the labels people have attached to themselves since 1945 is the only true thing that prevents all of that.

It's also a big logical fallacy; appealing to a better time in the past that never really existed. We're looking back at a time that was hard, where people lost wives/mothers in childbirth all the time. Sure you may only have to farm part of the year, and survive easier the rest .. until war breaks out. There's also the risk of soldiers just coming in, taking all the grain to help fight a losing war and leaving the people to starve .. people who might survive starvation if the other army wins and takes their entire families as slaves.

It's idolizing a time that was likely way more difficult and harsh than people make it out to be.

I can understand their sentiment; they want to grieve in peace. At the same time, I support people making a political message out of this .. because even if they want to move on .. their daughter died pointlessly and she didn't have to if people just admitted what's happening.

@djsumdog @NEETzsche Yep, but as the Sandy Hook Moms showed, there are lots of parents out there who use their kids in death as political props that just so happen to be pro system views.

I think the only time there was an exception is for one of the trials the NJP protested where the dad of the victim did come out and say "I don't exactly support these people but nobody else gives a shit about what happened".

Schwab’s WEF pushing for Social Credit System involving Universal Basic Income & Digital Identity
BY THE EXPOSÉ ON OCTOBER 22, 2022 •

https://expose-news.com/2022/10/22/wef-social-credit-digital-id-ubi/

@Elfie @hachi @PraxisOfEvil >everyone getting baited by one of the best trolls on fedi
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