xianc78 @xianc78@gameliberty.club

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#NoAgendaBannedCamp

So once upon a time there was this social network anyone could host that interoperated with other instances called StatusNet, renamed to GNU Social around the same time it became a GNU project (for a while being a GNU project carried some prestige). Over a few years it gains a cult following in the early-mid 2010s with a small group of nerds online, usually libertarian/free speech leaning, though there was also a socialist left segment of the network as well. This increases after Twitter ban waves and another instance releasing a frontend that mimics Twitter.

Then 2016-7 comes and Eugen decides to start this new social network that's decentralized and while starting a new network from scratch would be an uphill battle, Eugen decides to latch onto the existing GNU Social network using OStatus (while also adding in ActivityPub). Mastodon gets this marketing blitz about how it's "Twitter without the Nazis" from journalists for a month or so in early 2017.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/783akg/mastodon-is-like-twitter-without-nazis-so-why-are-we-not-using-it

This leads to a giant divide between Mastodon instances and the others using GNU Social, like the current one with Lemmy and the rest of the fedi or even the new Twitter refugees. Namely while the GNU Social side was mostly for free speech and similar, the Mastodon side had the Tumblr mob/NPR listener mindset of shutting down everything online. This is why a guide on Mastodon installation will tell you that you must install a blocklist as an example.

But the even larger issue is that now Mastodon has become the IE6 or Chromium of the fediverse. It's the most popular fediverse instance software based solely on name recognition. It had/has so much pull over the network that what Eugen wants, Eugen can get. Instance blocking wasn't a thing before Mastodon and the Mastodon side is still the top abuser of it. On top of that, Mastodon also has increasingly lagged behind Misskey/Pleroma and even forks for features like reacts. Due to this technical and cultural difference, being on the fediverse with Pleroma and Misskey is vastly different.

Aside from Mastodon instances hammering GNU Social instances (thanks to numerous factors including better hardware for Mastodon instances, more of them, and the ways the code was written), Mastodon also basically forced the rest of the fedi off of OStatus and onto ActivityPub by dropping support for the former. GS being abandoned basically also fueled the rise of Pleroma as ex GNU Social users wrote that.

There's a lot more I could get into, I know a few people on shitposter.club (a former GNU Social instance around before Mastodon) know a lot more about this than I ever could because they lived it.

What I want from the fedi #socialweb is attention democracy. I want everyone using #ActivityPub and everything on the internet layered with it. I want the public to decide what information, art and ideas go viral in the world, with no favor given to wealth or media ownership. That's my vision.

So while I want to welcome in #meta to further this goal, I fear they will see this threat to their power and perhaps try to co-opt it. IDK what to do next but spread the word about what's possible.

@7666 many big corporations aren't actually motivated by customer revenue, they actually run off investment capital. this is why you see these huge un-profitable zombie corporations that run at a loss for years,, constantly getting more investment capital from the mega-banks and investment firms who receive free money created out of thin air.

that's not capitalism. most of our economy isn't. it's how the likes of blackrock can impose their ESG ideology on corpos when it's completely 180 degrees opposed to being profitable

@djsumdog @Tony @xianc78 @PurpCat @demitasse @bot @goatmeal

Oh yeah, absolutely. As much fun as it is to LARP about it, a *real* war like that would be awful on every level.

Unfortunately, state collapse leave big power gaps, so if you aren't ready to swoop in and take control, and let's be honest, how many people that you would want in power are, you have a huge vacuum that gets filled with the worst kind of people.

In relation to all this, I think the way to avoid these things is to start working towards what the Afghanis have somewhat achieved (no not the Taliban). The reason that Afghanistan tends to be unconquerable is that they are made up a multiple tribes, and one agreement ends where the next tribe starts. The Irish had a similar thing and is why they were able to resist British rule for so long during the medieval period.

That's kind of the idea behind the structure of America anyway, but we need to really embrace it. Then you have localized revolutions or breakdowns, or a simple return to tribal law (Somalis also did this after their socialist regime collapsed in the 90's, and it worked out relatively great).

Akkoma is a very "iffy" fork of Pleroma IMO. Namely it removes some features (like the shoutbox), but most notably the developers are notorious for breaking things Pleroma does just because they don't like the people using some feature, leading instance owners to have to try to "remove" the patches removing said features to even keep the instance going. It's a total mess compared to just running stock Pleroma. I've never been able to see anyone tell me anything good Akkoma does, and even custom emojis are now in Pleroma and the other main fork of it (Rebased/Soapbox).

https://docs-develop.pleroma.social/backend/installation/debian_based_en/

Install the source version, OTP is extremely dated or has been for a while.

@hnygd @malmorrow Acceptance should NEVER be unconditional. There is good and there is evil, some forms of behavior is good, some are bad. You pedophile pieces of shit just want all kinds of immorality and dysfunctional behavior to be tolerated and even celebrated, because YOU are evil and want to corrupt kids.

We're having a much more fun discussion on a subthread because no one wants to listen to a rambling cunt who doesn't understand the legal system, doesn't understand laws, doesn't understand guns, probably doesn't know how to shoot a gun, is pro-surveillance state and calls everyone retards even though everyone else can quote sources, past links to laws, articles and videos, back up their claims and not be an annoying fuckwit who thinks she's better than everyone else as she's losing every argument she fucking makes.

You are literally being as dumb as the sjw in this thread trying to say Aerith is trans and we are the person below trying to tell you this is why nobody likes you.

You are Wesley Crusher

I think I agree with you actually … and the fact is, America is still in decent shape, especially compared to the rest of the world. Revolutions are not good things. The most moral side is rarely the victor. (If Booth didn’t kill off Lincoln, we would have been headed towards a tyranny .. Lincoln was before term limits).

Most Americas do not want the state to collapse. Especially any Christian who has done any mission work.

I consider them like mutually assured destruction on a personal scale,

Yes. True. but it scales up…

it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government

In a time with no globalism and where the colonies were sustaining themselves, the much smaller intrusion was enough that the rich/influential cult leaders got enough people to take up arms for glory and freedom.

There is a lot more to lose now, but we’ve also gained a lot … we are no where near the tipping point … but when that happens, armed people will create and defend communities to survive … and by communities I do mean warlords and terrible situations.

You don’t really ever want a revolution, but you should be prepared for when one comes.