As far as I am concerned, non autostic people are deffective. It must be so tiresome to always focus on 200 people's emotional state and opinions about each other. Then to focus on deforming each sentence to sound the correct way, even if it sacrefices the original message.
How could they even get through primary school with such a cognitive load is a mystery, but somehow, I don't even want to know.
@LukeAlmighty people without autism have the ability to filter sensory and cognitive input
Is simple and as it turns out, necessary to absolutely not pay attention to any of that shit whatsoever unless it is pertinent to what you were doing at any given moment
@MechaSilvio @LukeAlmighty it’s like catching a ball
The velocity and Arc of descent of the projectile you are attempting to intercept would require extensive amounts of calculus on paper to determine but your brain just processes it normally without even really consciously thinking about it
@LukeAlmighty @MechaSilvio how so? Most interactions aren’t planned and meticulously laid out with flow charts that follow a logical stage of progression
Everything is very fluid and ad hoc most of the time. While some people that you know will respond in predictable ways that you can anticipate you honestly don’t know what people are going to do most of the time but generally a commonly held culture and standards of conduct limit the possibilities of what you will have to deal with with other people’s behavior
It’s actually a lot less complicated than you think despite the variables involved most of them are completely irrelevant in practice
@Jackuu @MechaSilvio
> How so?
I am talking about the fact, that normies are used to lying to each other, and that if I were to point to the one thing, that I need more then any cure, it would be to cut the pointless lies from my childhood.
And you say, that people not only don't know that they lie, but that it's not even a real brain process. That is WORSE!!!
@LukeAlmighty @MechaSilvio I think you and I have a very different definition of what constitutes a lie. Fuzzy logic and detail omissions out of convenience are not the same as deliberate or malicious deception.
@RoyalJohnny242 @Jackuu @MechaSilvio
Well, obviously. I am working on it too.
And that's my point actually. I might have been 5 years ahead of where I am now, if ANYONE actually bothered to explain to me as a kid just how fucking often do people lie. And worse, that they don't even think about it.
@LukeAlmighty @RoyalJohnny242 @MechaSilvio I’m not sure what your perception of people “lying to you” actually entails. Is it people acting differently in different situations? Or is it people selectively sharing information with different people?
I’m just trying to understand where you’re coming from here
@MechaSilvio @Jackuu @RoyalJohnny242
> People lie all the time but the issue here is sucking at social cues.
Yes. And my point is, that explaining to an autistic people why people lie so much will "cure the shit put of them", simply because they won't be so confused from it.
literal autistic bullshit.
@Jackuu @MechaSilvio @RoyalJohnny242
ok.
First off, you won't be debating my opinions, but my opinions from when I was 6-12. Because that is, when the damage is made.
That being said, do you realy not remember all of the lies that were told in that age? All of the feel good lines, that if taken seriously could get you killed?
The problem is, that in the same way, as telling modern women, that they won't be judged for sleeping around, causes some of them to actually believe it, autistic people need to be told, that people are tribal, emotional and once they get invested in something, they cannot be reasoned with. How about, that people will always lie if it means increasing their tribal standing?
Even this little would do miracles. But instead, we are telling kids about kindness, non-judgment and most importantly, that deep down, everyone is a good person.
That shit takes years to figgure out. And those are yours you will never get back.
@Dicer @Jackuu @MechaSilvio
How fo you know what show it is?
@Dicer @Jackuu @MechaSilvio
Yeah..
The show was retarded. But I still like that one line.
@Jackuu
Yeah, the ability to filter noise would be nice, but I get amazing attention to random detail, so a fair trade I guess?
@LukeAlmighty it’s selectively useful but can be a liability when focus is required with a lot of excess noise in the environment.
My autismal cousin is completely incapable of driving because he just can’t filter out the irrelevant shit and focus on not crashing into shit in front of him. No you don’t have to stare at and read every single street sign that you pass, no you don’t have to count every single car around you, no you don’t have to maintain exact distance between vehicles on all sides at all times
As far as I’m concerned driving is a very fluid and organic process but to him it’s this insurmountable avalanche of steps and tasks and inputs that he just doesn’t have the ability to parse properly. He can figure out all sorts of weird little minutae but for the most part he’s crippled by this
@Jackuu
Yeah, I get it. I didn't even try getting a driver's license for that exact reason.
Can you immagine, that we had a teacher saying jokes during a university finals?
As I said, I know about this issue. But I still see it as a good trade.
@Boomerman @Jackuu
Driving is the worst example.
It requires you to actively observe your environment, while still filtering only for pre-determined details, and keep in mind a vehicle state as well as traffic rules. At ALL TIMES WITHOUT A PAUSE.
While the "driving" will soon get integrated, the observation goals are just contradictory. If you go hunting expecting a deer, and you see a bear, should your brain not react simply because it isn't what you were looking for?
@LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club I frequently find that neurotypical people come off as NPCs.
This cannot be natural stupidity... This shit has to be thought. 6YO kids understand the "make me an offer" concept. How can these people pass ALL OF THAT education, and not get that?
I get it at McDonalds, where they ARE in fact hiring street level brains, that they might not understand "offer me a burger", but a university educated people? Seriously?