To this day, I have no fucking idea how could Trans debate hone so insanely wrong. No matter how long I do spend on the topic, I cannot wrap my head around this madness, but the more interesting part is, just how little good faith debate there actually is on the topic.

Fuck... Even on Abortion, there is some gray zone. I do not belong to either camp, because I know, that both sides are trying to pointlessly escalate their position to push the overton window. But the base arguments are clear. But with the trans debate, I don't even know the last time I heard 2 people try to compate the baselines.

@LukeAlmighty the "gray zone" is sex =/= gender.

That's it.

Conservatards can't stand that gray zone because they view sex and gender as synonymous. As with most things, they shot themselves in the foot, and now their only recourse is outright oppression (with predictable results) to try and amend the "problem".

@Aldo2 @LukeAlmighty
I came to the conclusion some time ago that "gender" simply doesn't exist. People are instead describing "personality" with a new word "gender". And indeed, your personality can be completely opposite of what you'd expect of someone based on their sex. You can have an extremely feminine personality while you look like the manliest of men. And your personality and various mental disorders can make dislike and feel uncomfortable with how your body looks. But nobody would sign off on dangerous and expensive medical procedures based on someone's personality. So "gender" came into the picture instead, to try to legitimize everything.

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