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@lamp pedophilic disorder isn't even diagnosed if it doesn't cause distress. pedophilia in general is incredibly sensationalized/weaponized and i would consider that a bad thing because when it gets like that, i believe it CAN cause distress. people get in their own head about it and start to freak out, maybe get depressed or do something rash. especially if there is something like childhood trauma that caused someone to think this way, or other mental issues.
even though many of my views are controversial (the circle i'm visiting just changes which ones are), i try my best to be as level-headed as possible and not let sensationalism get to me if i can help it. i feel like people wanting to kill/maim or otherwise harshly punish pedophiles are very similar to say, people who want to punch nazis or remove their rights for saying things they disagree with. two sides of the same coin. beliefs and thoughts should not be met with actions, they should be met with civilized debate, study, and philosophy.
killing or torturing someone who has technically done nothing wrong (and may have just had wrong done to them) is highly unethical and heartless from my point of view.
it's highly hypocritical when it is coming from people who advocate for free speech and to be left the fuck alone because they aren't doing anything harmful. you know that people who disagree with what you have to say would strip you of your rights (or worse) in an instant if they could, so why is it okay to do that to others?
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@Hoss @beardalaxy @Mackiavelli13 Is it really like rabies though? If it's merely the passive ability to get sexually aroused, I'd think it be no harder to manage than sexual attraction to adults.
I've only known one pedophile, whom said they have a "line" and only consumed lolicon content. They seemed like a perfectly fine person, but seemed to be under tension of the social stigma. I don't know them anymore, but are you saying there's a good chance they might cause harm in the future?
@Mackiavelli13 @lamp @Hoss that's just eugenics, which i believe is highly unethical. it's hard for me to wrap my head around the idea that some people would rather have people be killed for no more than thoughts. you are willing people to escalate those thoughts with your rhetoric. you want to believe so much that these people are going to be horrible enough to actually harm a child so that you can demonize them, rather than offering some help and preventing that from occurring. it's highly irrational.
@Hoss @Mackiavelli13 @sunshinetadpole @lamp that's kind of the nice thing about the internet, for all its faults. at least you can get things off of your chest. there are probably pedophiles that have the same feeling about it, it makes for a good outlet and just talking to people about stuff can really change the way you think about things or your perspective on things, as long as people are being respectful. especially talking to people that have gone through similar issues and actually understand what you're going through, because it is unlikely that a therapist or your parents will truly understand the gravity of whatever is pulling down on you even if they want to try their best to help.
@Mackiavelli13 @lamp @sunshinetadpole @Hoss who is this lucas person you keep talking about
@Hoss @lamp @sunshinetadpole @Mackiavelli13 oooooohhhhhhh. yeah a tranny that is sending black market HRT to young boys is heaps and bounds worse than someone who is just attracted to children but leads a normal life despite that. fuck anyone causing actual harm (and turning children into trannies is 100% actual harm).
@beardalaxy @Hoss @sunshinetadpole @Mackiavelli13 aren't those children born that way though? transgenderism occurs when parts of the brain (or even the body) physically have traits of the opposite sex, and the brain may think it's of the opposite gender (dysphoria), so transitioning is a way to deal with the dysphoria.
and aren't most of them happier after transitioning? there are some horror stories but i've heard they are a small percentage.
@lamp @Hoss @sunshinetadpole @Mackiavelli13 the amount of people who are actually transgender (have gender dysphoria) vs the amount of people who are being led to believe they are transgender is miniscule. the fact that i can watch a smash bros tournament and see like 10 trannies in a room of maybe 50 people is not right. it propagates like a plague in circles where people don't typically feel socially accepted and they think that becoming trans will gain them social acceptance. if their happiness was hinging on that to begin with, maybe they will be happy for some time, but it's for the wrong reasons. they aren't actually happy with themselves, they're happy that people like them now. once those people are gone.... what do they have to be happy about anymore?
i think it's a huge problem with autistic people. the amount of trannies who are also autistic is massive. they get taken advantage of because their social awareness is lower than a normal person.
@Mackiavelli13 @lamp @SwattySquad @sunshinetadpole @Hoss being black pilled is lame tbh. you can still have fun. don't be like patrick getting his head swapped out with brain coral and becoming too smart to hang out with spongebob. enjoy life and the people around you while you still can.
@Mackiavelli13 @sunshinetadpole @lamp @SwattySquad @Hoss i went to church for 19 years of my life and it sucked ass, and a lot of that culture is what made me fucked up to begin with. i'd rather have a personal relationship with God than share it with a room full of people who will judge me because i'm not just like them.
@SwattySquad @Mackiavelli13 @lamp @sunshinetadpole @Hoss it is a requirement to be at least somewhat fucked up if you're on fedi, that we all have in common.
@sunshinetadpole @Mackiavelli13 @lamp @Hoss i know it is a natural response to hate them. there are plenty of natural human responses that we overcome all the time because we aren't animals. we're complex beings with complex problems, caused by ourselves and the very nature of having complex thought. if we just went back to making everything about natural human responses, the world would absolutely be a worse place.
if people want to hate pedophiles, that's fine. if people want to wish death upon them, they can do that. i don't think it's helpful, though, and i think there's a lot of cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy between that and many beliefs of people who usually say this kind of stuff, solely because it involves children and that sparks up irrationality.
@sunshinetadpole @Mackiavelli13 @lamp @Hoss not to mention all of the "trans" people doing shit like the whole "egg cracking" stuff.
there is certainly a difference between glorifying a disorder and justifying your existence despite having a disorder.
It's always one way, but not the other. California, among other states, make "conversion therapy" illegal, but it is understood that "conversion therapy" involves only trying to help a kid who had said they were trans come to understand that they are not, but doesn't prohibit "egg cracking" because according to ideology the children already were trans but only thought they were cis because of the cisgender system of oppression, which is why a "trans" child wanting to be "cis" can't be real because no one would want to intentionally be a "cis" oppressor.
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@OverstepSmirkCrepe @Mackiavelli13 @lamp @sunshinetadpole @Hoss dude this meme could be used for anything.
@OverstepSmirkCrepe @Mackiavelli13 @lamp @sunshinetadpole @Hoss if it was meant to be sarcastic then that was completely lost on me lol so that's my bad, i genuinely cannot tell if people are being serious sometimes without an actual like satire article or something lol. it doesn't help that i'm talking to people and about people that would genuinely agree with it.
@OverstepSmirkCrepe @Mackiavelli13 @lamp @sunshinetadpole @Hoss to be completely honest with you i spent way too long debating with retards on facebook and trying to talk to people like that has formed some very bad habits.
i also may or may not be slightly retarded. i'm workin on it xD
