Saw this on a pro trans pro commie twitter page and it's so hilarious to me. Both sides could save so much time if they all just admitted kids are human beings, not objects.
Left: DO NOT GROOM MY CHILDREN WITH YOUR COMIC BOOK GOD
RIGHT: DO NOT GROOM MY CHILDREN WITH YOUR COMIC BOOK SEXUALITY
Me: Maybe the children can make their own fucking choices?
Both sides at me: NO!
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@Jazzy_Butts lolis aren't real kids problem solved
@Jazzy_Butts @beardalaxy
It's the real difference though.
@LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy No
It is no different to force psychological abuse on a child than to force sexual abuse on them. If a child wants to choose a religious path they should be allowed to, just like if they choose to transition.
@Jazzy_Butts @beardalaxy
The meme is comparing loli lovers to child castrators...
But ok... If you don't see the difference, I won't waste my time 
@LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy Everyone knows the 1488 lolicunnylovers are christofascists
@Jazzy_Butts @LukeAlmighty not me. You argue in bad faith.
@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty Not really, you just make logical leaps and I don't respect them enough to entertain. Maybe if you had said "Yes we're brainwash kids but we're doing it THE RIGHT WAY" we could talk because that'd be honest, instead you fag out and say O YA WELL TRANNIES CUT KID DICKS!!!!! I'm pretty sure traditionalists have cut more kid dicks than anyone on earth. And trannies don't cut kid dicks. Kids don't transition medically. Get over it. Keep holding up the one or two freaks who did it really young as if that proves any kind of point.
@Jazzy_Butts @beardalaxy
It does prove the point, that you are unwilling to say "That is wrong" and outline exactly, where your ficking line is.
@LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy Cutting kid dicks against their will is wrong. Cutting baby dicks is wrong for that reason. If your 10-17yo says "I'd like to be circumcized" well at that point you can talk with them about it and if they understand what they're saying and what will come, then you should support them. What do you think of that?
@Jazzy_Butts @LukeAlmighty they can get it done themselves when they're 18 if they really want to, but I would ask why they want to do that and tell them why I didn't do it to them.
I'm pretty sure the only reason would be "my friends are circumcised" which would lead into a good talk about how you shouldn't feel pressured into doing something just because of your friends, and that I didn't circumcise him in the first place because I didn't want to do anything that would hurt him on purpose just because someone else told me I should.
This is the opposite of tranny grooming, where suicidal fags prey on the insecurities of children rather than trying to ease them.
@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty The kid could have phimosis, and it could hurt. He tells you to go fuck yourself when you hand wave him. What then?
@Jazzy_Butts @LukeAlmighty the kid could have this, what about this, but in this case this would happen what then?
stop trying to justify tranny grooming with completely different matters, maybe. you're moving the goal posts constantly. you seem pretty unhinged; that's why people don't like tranny groomer allies.
@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty you admit that you are so weak-willed and malleable that you could be groomed into being a tranny I don't know about you but when people tried to groom me into being things that I didn't want to be I stood up against it
@Jazzy_Butts @LukeAlmighty you know literally nothing about me then lmao
@Jazzy_Butts @LukeAlmighty i was brainwashed into religion from the day i was born. in high school, my cognitive dissonance was so high i couldn't handle it and tried killing myself. i imagine that this case is quite similar to so-called "trans kids."
religions and tranny groomers act on the same principles of preying on human insecurities and fears with promises and a supportive community. both have very cult-like behavior and i detest them.
@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty I've known people who have tried to kill themselves because they weren't being allowed to transition so what are you even talking about you're like so blind if you think you're arguing for anything other than the acceptance of trans kids
@Jazzy_Butts @LukeAlmighty in a case like that, i'd wager to say the person is already severely depressed and something like this stacks onto that. it demonstrates a failure in parenting and a lack of care when it comes to REALLY emotionally providing for a child. some parents have a line they don't want to be crossed but also do nothing to ensure that their kid never comes close to that line, and when they do it's a lot harder to correct course.
@Jazzy_Butts @beardalaxy
Btw, in this argumentative atmosphere, kindness cannot get through.
But I am truly sorry you live in an environment so deranged, that you know more then one troon. I get, if you meet one, since statistics on the matter do work this way, but since you know more, then you have to live one hell of a bad life.
@LukeAlmighty @Jazzy_Butts @beardalaxy My week has 5 troon… People act like this is normal. Faggots in dresses working at the grocery. Like its Np. 5 years ago, no troons…
@VIcFury @beardalaxy @Jazzy_Butts
i meet one in my fucking life.
Of course he was a uni teacher at a liberal shithole.
@VIcFury @beardalaxy @Jazzy_Butts
..... And he trooned out only way after the global wave of brainwashing had gotten mainstream. (only about 3 years ago)
@LukeAlmighty @VIcFury @Jazzy_Butts I am lucky that I haven't personally spent much time with whack trannies. Most of the fuckin creepy/weird ones were in the Q category with made up genders and shit. There was one tranny mtf that was just fuckin gross and would like, TRY to get us to say bad stuff about him all the time. Some queer dude also used to hit on me all the time despite knowing I wasn't interested.
I was friends with 2 trans people. One of them was ftm and she always seemed like a dude, not just a tomboy but a straight up dude, and that was long before all the crazy troon wave and politicized gender and shit started happening. Back when everyone still thought feminism was good, you know? Probably the one actual case of someone going trans that has made sense to me, even though I still don't particularly agree with it. She's still cool with us saying her dead name and whatever and fuckin hates the current state of politically correct shit because it makes her look bad. I can respect someone like that even if I disagree with them on their decision.
The other one was a mtf from work that I literally would not have known was trans unless somebody else told me. That's the way it ought to be. For 2 years I thought he was a girl straight up, never had a reason to think otherwise.
If all ftm and mtf people passed, nobody would know.
It also depends on whether the tech will ever actually allow them to swap genitalia and have them working. In that case, it's a different issue.
I'd probably be okay with some man turning into a woman magically, as long as it was a complete transformation. But that will never happen they way human biology works, except in science fiction.
Not to mention the psychological problems that would cause. It's much better to accept what you are and get on with it
@Corfiot @Jazzy_Butts @LukeAlmighty @VIcFury the thing is that he didn't introduce himself as being a tranny and request to be referred to be specific pronouns. Maybe he does now, maybe he actually had it in his bio online or some shit, but I never saw that. Never carried around a trans flag or said anything about it, just carried on with life as usual.
@VIcFury @Jazzy_Butts @LukeAlmighty @Corfiot time to dump a bitch
@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty Ok, I copy paste that argument, and use it myself. Immovable object meet unstoppable force.