@kaniini Will do. You won't see me leaving my house for a week at least.

I'd highly recommend you actually test those guns ASAP, who knows what tomorrow may bring. 😬

It's hard to tell just how prominent the white supremacists actually are. Are they infiltrating #Antifa? They would certainly blend in.

Are they the #ProudBoys? Tomorrow I will look into the actual prominence of the #ProudBoys at the protests.

@realcaseyrollins I mean antifa is just an idea (which is why trump looks quite daft trying to designate it as a terror org) but yeah I'm sure some of them are posing as antifa folks.

can't check the guns right now because I'm out of town decommissioning some old colo so I can set new gear up closer to me. I practiced with the weapon I have on me right now for protection quite recently so I'm sure it's good to go if some skinhead tries to start some shit.

feels bad that a bunch of shithead cops, authcoms and nazis are duking it out over the Floyd murder. I'm not sure what the answer is though. absolutely gutted about all of it.

@kaniini
I mean, #Antifa is actually a terror group, but it's great to see that you're not down with the violence. We conservatives need more people like that on the other side of the aisle and it looks like we're finally getting them

@realcaseyrollins antifa is not a terror group per se. there are authcoms who claim affiliation, but to be a terror group you must first be a group. there is no antifa base like ISIL and Al Qaeda had for example. there is no head of antifa. agreed that there may be some authcom terror cells that call themselves "antifa" though.

@kaniini
#Antifa has chapters which are defined groups. But yes as a whole they're decentralized and have no leadership, although they do have national figureheads which rally the various chapters (like the #Twitter account that got shut down for telling people to burn a city)

@realcaseyrollins sure, and that's what I am saying. I would believe that some of those chapters are either authcom terror cells or adjacent. those people are appropriating the idea of anti-fascism (a good thing) for their revolutionary agenda. I don't support those groups or their appropriation, and calling them "antifa terrorists" legitimizes their appropriation, a play that trump wants people to take as it strengthens his control.

(also in general, I'm more of a #NeverTrump conservative, in that I would like small government, but I believe that some socialist ideas could help to make the world a better place. I would rather mothball the F-35 and SLS programs and pointless wars and use that money for healthcare for example.)

@kaniini
Wouldn't it be great to take money used for intervention and use it to properly run the VA system? 🙂

@realcaseyrollins yes, and the IHS.

@realcaseyrollins (also to be clear what the GOP platform is, is not conservatism. it's the same neoliberal crap the Democrats push except more transparently focused on big business and big money interests. real conservatism is advocacy for small government that takes the best ideas from across the spectrum to obtain the best possible outcomes.)

@kaniini EXACTLY!!! There are few distinguishing features of the #GOP, the #prolife cause and gun rights are literally the only things keeping me voting #GOP consistently.

@realcaseyrollins @kaniini GOP isn't really pro-life.

@mewmew @realcaseyrollins

well, I clarify that by saying they are anti-abortion. once the baby is delivered, they don't give a shit anymore.

@kaniini @realcaseyrollins GOP is anti-abortion as pure virtue signalling. if they actually wanted to reduce abortion, they would support better access to sex education, contraception, etc.

@mewmew @realcaseyrollins oh, definitely. it's just yet another form of grift.

@mewmew @kaniini @realcaseyrollins >nooo don't get abortions
>but we're going to make birth control not covered by health insurance
The politicians are just getting paid off by big pharma at this point. It's not even against the bible to get an abortion

@cirno @kaniini @realcaseyrollins well yeah. anti-abortion Christianity is also virtue signalling imo but that's another matter.

@mewmew @kaniini @realcaseyrollins Like 90% of Republicans claiming to fight for christian values have never read the book, they're only doing it to get the votes of actual worshippers (since they used to be the majority in america)

@cirno @realcaseyrollins @kaniini @mewmew exaggeration or do you think its actually as high as 90%?

@Locksmith @kaniini @mewmew @realcaseyrollins No, I deadass think it's 90%. I don't even think most go to church

@cirno
I mean I'm strongly anti-abortion (#prolife) but y'all make great points about the #GOP opposing contraception, esp. the religious right.

The fringer segments of the religious are particularly peculiar on this. They are against sex ed in schools, fine, but don't seem to be for parents actually teaching them valuable things about sex and the various ways it's done and protections. They want to ban abortion, which again is a laudable goal, but tell people "don't have sex" instead of steering them towards methods of birth control that don't kill a fetus (preventative birth control, I think it's called)! Like we aren't dang Catholics! Opposing all birth control is * not * biblical.
@mewmew @kaniini

@realcaseyrollins @cirno @mewmew

i think actual sex ed and universal contraception are preferable to abortion, but women must have the right to bodily autonomy. anything less is not true conservatism (because the State is restricting rights).

@realcaseyrollins @cirno @kaniini yeah.

I don't like abortion either, hardly any Democrat does. However, making it illegal only makes it more dangerous, desperate people will still try to get them. Having the procedure be safe, legal, and rare is the goal here.

@mewmew @kaniini @realcaseyrollins Like seriously. Women don't get off to getting abortions or anything and it ruins their bodies and the odds of them having stillborns after skyrockets. If every teen could readily get birth control then even the horny dudes too scared to buy condoms wouldn't do shit when their pullout game is weak as fuck

@realcaseyrollins @kaniini To various degrees, both ‘sides’ are ultimately Statists. The only real difference is exactly which form and flavor the State takes in their ideal world

@wolfie @realcaseyrollins but that's the point, both have the same actual ideal world is one of a corporatocracy. the rest is PR.

@wolfie @realcaseyrollins corporatocracy is, incidentally, not compatible with true conservatism, as it undermines market freedom.

@kaniini @realcaseyrollins Oh, I don’t know, they do tend to have some minor differences in the precise form their ideal State takes. The anti-gun thing of the “left” vice the anti-… not sure what to call it. Not really sex thing but whatever one wants to call it.. on the “right” for instance

@wolfie @realcaseyrollins mostly trivial differences though. both are authoritarian regimes with corporations in control.

@kaniini @realcaseyrollins Hard to argue that

@realcaseyrollins @kaniini

Armed minorities are harder to oppress
#ShallNotBeInfringed #Protect2A

@kaniini @realcaseyrollins "I would believe that some of those chapters are either authcom terror cells or adjacent"

lmfao if you seriously think there are any remotely organized authcoms in the US, let alone """authcom terror cells""". there are a few tiny book clubs and some of them have their own newsletters.

this sounds like a bunch of anarchists got drunk with fox anchors and decided to team up on some regime change propaganda

@kaniini @realcaseyrollins Buy night vision goggles too.

@lucky
Yeah esp. if they can protect against tear gas and rubber bullets, just in case.

Maybe get a Kevlar vest too
@kaniini

@realcaseyrollins @lucky

I want a tactical corset tbh

@realcaseyrollins @kaniini I don’t think they would protect against tear gas, but they do give a huge advantage if the lights go out, hence why US forces like using them overseas. I think Kaniini’s gun preparation is for any attempts by militias or neonazi acceleratioinists going on killing sprees, rather than fighting riot police, although I could be wrong. The former probably wouldn’t be using tear gas as much as the latter.

@lucky
Yeah. It's possible that the police could go after the rioters and one could easily get caught in the crossfire. Best to be prepared.
@kaniini

@lucky @realcaseyrollins actually I want thermal goggles for other reasons, they're quite useful in general

@kaniini @realcaseyrollins lol, my original suggestion was going to be for thermal goggles since they don’t get overloaded by bright lights and can work even in day, but I kind of consider both them and light magnification goggles as night vision when used for that purpose.

@kaniini @realcaseyrollins Of course I’m meming in all this since I think things are calming down, and any accelerationist attempts to accelerate would be seen for what they are and not have the intended effect, as seen from last years unfortunate incidence. But who knows, there could be some nut too stupid to see what happened using that method.

@djsumdog @realcaseyrollins

the white supremacist is a nazi trying to use his naziness as a position of authority, the cop is an agent of the State which is using violence to regain authority, and the protester is an idiot trying to make a martyr of himself. hope that sums everything up.

as the founder of the London police noted in 1822, policing requires consent. violence does not result in consent.

@kaniini @realcaseyrollins That's ... pretty spot on.

@djsumdog
This * could * be racially profiling of me, but they do seem to me to be like white supremacists. They are dressed how I would expect a white supremacist to dress (and how the Southern sympathizers I know dress), and really look like they want to fight the #BlackLivesMatter people, they just can't justify that yet. Only thing missing is the guns.

Please note this is just speculation, I'm just guessing. All I'm saying is, of all the protesters, these seem more like potential neo-Nazis than the rest. Even though I agree with every single thing they're saying.
@kaniini

@realcaseyrollins @djsumdog nah they definitely white supremacists, you can tell based on the attitude and body language what they're trying to do

@kaniini
I wouldn't exactly call that proof but that's definitely a reasonable conclusion based on the factors you just said.
@djsumdog

@realcaseyrollins @djsumdog @kaniini
The protester is white. The guys talking seem like standard New England townhome dwellers. Where's the white supremacy?

I see people who are fed up with the violence, cops being overwhelmed & don't trust "protesters" to not be looters/rioters. They clearly want to be left alone.

The one didn't need to grab the sign, but you're just looking for something to hate at this point.

https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/1268016653863976966