Gender is what you feel.
Sex is what you are.
What you do is not directly and explicitly informed by what you are lol
What sort of "faggy" reasoning is this?
And now I'm a gay liberal.
Lol, you make such a dogmatic statement like that, and then say that I'M the one doing the dogma-posting, lol
How old are you?
@Nudhul hormones are biology.
Hormones do not influence how someone feels.
If they did, then trans men would not need HRT.
The reason they want HRT is because they don't have enough female hormones, not because they have too much.
@Nudhul and the hormones help with having a "feminine" body-type.
Biologically, they are still male, but they want the hormones so that they can "pass" as a woman.
@Nudhul what claim?
That men who transition clearly aren't transitioning because they have an overdose of Estrogen?
There are studies on men who have high test (e.g. bodybuilders) who transition. Are they transitioning because they have high test?
The fact that they want to take HRT is all the "proof" I need, lol
@Nudhul what?
Men with high test transition.
Does that mean that high test levels are affecting their "feelings" regarding turning trans?
By your stupid dogmatic logic, their high test levels are the reason they become trans.
I'm just reading your argument back to you, you utter retard.
@Nudhul porn is not hormones, you utter ingrate.
Dopamine is not a hormone.
Hormones are not just any "chemical in da brain"
Jeeeeeeesus, and you're saying I'm the one who is illiterate?
Fuckin' ey...
@Nudhul you're literally arguing that it has the same effect as hormones do on whether someone becomes trans you fucking colossal retard.
Are you even reading what you're writing?
No, wait, don't answer that, I know...
No it's not.
Hormones don't affect "feelings" regarding transitioning.
I then said that people with high test also transition, using some bodybuilders as an example.
The point is that hormones don't make one transition. If they did, then trans people wouldn't need more hormones now, would they?
So?
What if they don't want to do bottom surgery?
The only people that appear to demand that they get bottom surgery are the same people who say sex and gender are the same.
I guess I finally understand why trans people don't get bottom surgery. Because it validates their opposition.
Just to be clear.
This entire "good faith debate" was meant to be over transgenderism in general, not specifically over trans kids.
@Nudhul you're the one saying that hormones effect decisions re: trans choice.
You're saying that watching porn also effects those decisions.
I'm saying that neither porn, nor hormones, is responsible.
@Nudhul YOU'RE THE ONE ARGUING THAT HORMONES CAUSE THE FEELINGS.
YOU DUMB FUCKING IDIOT.
YOU FUCKING PEANUT BRAIN.
NAY
YOU FUCKING LENTIL BRAIN.
@PurpCat You've completely misrepresented my argument to now make it seem like hormones are an addiction...
The original argument was that hormones are responsible for turning trans.
Stay on topic, furry.
literally what is the fucking purpose of hormones then? they instruct your body on what it should do, and the hormones produced in your body are determined by which sex you are. remember how you all crow about mood disorders being a hormone imbalance? what happened to that line? hormones both determine how you feel, and do nothing at all, depending on which argument you want to make at any given point.