Hoss “Cyber Jester” Delgado
It is not oppression when you're told you can't change in the women's locker room. It is not oppression when somebody refuses to humor your degenerate games of play pretend. It is not oppression when parents resist your efforts to corrupt the minds and bodies of their children with wacko gender perversions. This deviancy is a social pathogen that only spread as far as it did because the immune responses were being unnaturally suppressed.

RT: https://gameliberty.club/users/Aldo2/statuses/114185896437699175
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Nudhul
@Hoss @Aldo2 saying sex is not gender is like saying any object is not the constituent parts that make up the whole of it. only the faggiest midwit retard redditors think they've hit some kind of gotcha moment with their minute technicality.

"gender is what you do not what you are!"

okay, except that what you do is directly and explicitly informed by what you are, so why are we splitting hairs here?

more fucking gay libshit dogma.
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Aldo

@Nudhul

Gender is what you feel.

Sex is what you are.

What you do is not directly and explicitly informed by what you are lol

What sort of "faggy" reasoning is this?

And now I'm a gay liberal.

Lol, you make such a dogmatic statement like that, and then say that I'M the one doing the dogma-posting, lol

How old are you?

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Nudhul
@Aldo2 "What you do is not directly and explicitly informed by what you are lol"


literally what is the fucking purpose of hormones then? they instruct your body on what it should do, and the hormones produced in your body are determined by which sex you are. remember how you all crow about mood disorders being a hormone imbalance? what happened to that line? hormones both determine how you feel, and do nothing at all, depending on which argument you want to make at any given point.
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Aldo

@Nudhul hormones are biology.

Hormones do not influence how someone feels.

If they did, then trans men would not need HRT.

The reason they want HRT is because they don't have enough female hormones, not because they have too much.

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Nudhul
@Aldo2 hormones don't influence how you feel, huh? didn't know i was talking to an uber-genius able to disprove 150+ years of psychiatric and chemical science.

got any proof for that claim by the way?
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Aldo

@Nudhul what claim?

That men who transition clearly aren't transitioning because they have an overdose of Estrogen?

There are studies on men who have high test (e.g. bodybuilders) who transition. Are they transitioning because they have high test?

The fact that they want to take HRT is all the "proof" I need, lol

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Nudhul
@Aldo2 if i want to kill annoying people is that proof i'm trans-warlord? you are not a serious person.
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Aldo

@Nudhul what?

Men with high test transition.

Does that mean that high test levels are affecting their "feelings" regarding turning trans?

By your stupid dogmatic logic, their high test levels are the reason they become trans.

I'm just reading your argument back to you, you utter retard.

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Nudhul
@Aldo2 or, hear me out, it could be that they are lonely porn-addled degenerates trying to chase the next high.
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Aldo
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@Nudhul lol

You do realize you just moved your own goalpost, right?

Tard.

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Nudhul
@Aldo2 how exactly? porn is a drug. viewing porn creates chemical reactions in your brain. chemicals influence how you feel. it's perfectly in line with my argument.

sorry about your illiteracy problem but i dont really care
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Aldo

@Nudhul porn is not hormones, you utter ingrate.

Dopamine is not a hormone.

Hormones are not just any "chemical in da brain"

Jeeeeeeesus, and you're saying I'm the one who is illiterate?

Fuckin' ey...

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Nudhul
@Aldo2 i didnt say porn is a hormone you gay nigger
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Aldo

@Nudhul you're literally arguing that it has the same effect as hormones do on whether someone becomes trans you fucking colossal retard.

Are you even reading what you're writing?

No, wait, don't answer that, I know...

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Nudhul
@Aldo2 >you're literally arguing that it has the same effect as hormones do on whether someone becomes trans you fucking colossal retard.


no? i never said that. you're a stupid gay nigger bitch faggot.

@Hoss why is this guy such a dildo?
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Hoss “Cyber Jester” Delgado
His whole argument that hormones don't fuck with your mind is based on the premise that "high-test" bodybuilders transition at a higher rate than gen pop. You know what else bodybuilders do? Wreak absolute havoc on their endocrine systems via gear use.
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Aldo

@Hoss @Nudhul

No it's not.

Hormones don't affect "feelings" regarding transitioning.

I then said that people with high test also transition, using some bodybuilders as an example.

The point is that hormones don't make one transition. If they did, then trans people wouldn't need more hormones now, would they?

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Hoss “Cyber Jester” Delgado
I just explained why bodybuilders are the worst example you could've possibly used. They inject themselves with all sorts of hormones and steroids every single day, that shit screws up your body's natural hormone production over time.
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Aldo

@Hoss @Nudhul

OK, let's look at normal atheletes then. Non-steroid users.

There is one trans-woman who was a well-known track-runner, who revealed her test levels before transitioning, and they were average to high.

Did her test levels cause her to transition?

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Nudhul
@Hoss @Aldo2 jersh used to talk about a guy who literally wanted to become a tampon, and he would take the time to educate women on the importance of feminine hygiene and was generally a very weird person. after a number of visits to his psychiatrist she suggested he undergo a dna sequencing test, which revealed he has klinefelter syndrome. he went on estrogen supplements and eventually fell off the internet radar and resumed a normal life. do you recall?
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Hoss “Cyber Jester” Delgado
I do vaguely remember that story, if only because it was so bizarre.
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Nudhul
@Hoss @Aldo2 yeah they have tiny little raisin balls, the primary producer of tesosterone in males. if one would retire from their bodybuilding career and suddenly find themselves in a severe testosterone deficit...
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Aldo

@Nudhul @Hoss

God you people do no actual research on anything, and it really shows.

You're like half-right about if they stopped taking test then they'd have low levels, but that's the point, they transition WHILE they're on test.

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@Aldo2 @Nudhul @Hoss
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Hoss “Cyber Jester” Delgado
You don't know how any of this shit works. Gear fucks up all sorts of hormone balance in the body.
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Aldo

@Hoss @Nudhul

I.....

Literally just gave you another example of someone who didn't take gear and had average to high test levels and how they transitioned...

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Hoss “Cyber Jester” Delgado
And I'm using the example that you yourself provided (bodybuilders transitioning at a higher rate than the general population) to make a very strong counterargument to your own bullshit claims that hormones don't fuck with the mind.
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Mitch "I AM THE LAW" Conner
If adults want to disfigure themselves that's one thing but the whole "trans kids" myth is a lot more damaging. If you stop a boy from going through puberty and stunt his penis growth, the only way to make a neovagina is to use the rectum. Great way to give someone terminal sepsis.
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Aldo

@mitchconner @Hoss @Nudhul

So?

What if they don't want to do bottom surgery?

The only people that appear to demand that they get bottom surgery are the same people who say sex and gender are the same.

I guess I finally understand why trans people don't get bottom surgery. Because it validates their opposition.

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Mitch "I AM THE LAW" Conner
doesn't matter, still castrating children, sicko. LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE.
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Nudhul
@Aldo2 @mitchconner @Hoss the fact that they use the euphemism "bottom surgery" tells everything about its ghoulish nature. they cant even plainly call it what it is.
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Mitch "I AM THE LAW" Conner
That's their whole game, intentionally misusing language, to gaslight well meaning normies.

Gender affirming care: castration
Protect trans kids: castrate children who won't understand the consequences and often regret it later
etc
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Aldo

@mitchconner @Hoss @Nudhul

Just to be clear.

This entire "good faith debate" was meant to be over transgenderism in general, not specifically over trans kids.

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Aldo

@Nudhul you're the one saying that hormones effect decisions re: trans choice.

You're saying that watching porn also effects those decisions.

I'm saying that neither porn, nor hormones, is responsible.

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Nudhul
@Aldo2 right, so there's nothing that is responsible other than some nebulous magical "feeling" that has no cause.
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Aldo

@Nudhul YOU'RE THE ONE ARGUING THAT HORMONES CAUSE THE FEELINGS.

YOU DUMB FUCKING IDIOT.

YOU FUCKING PEANUT BRAIN.

NAY

YOU FUCKING LENTIL BRAIN.

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Nudhul
@Aldo2 yeah because they do. so can porn addiction. you're the one over here thinking bodily processes have no influence over the mind like that half-wit descartes.
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