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Jazzy: Postulates, theories, propriety, *dabs corners of mouth with fancy napkin*

@Nanashi @7 @11112011 @laurel @p @coyote @rats @Moon And yet that last line isn't quite right either to me, because it is never love that spawns wicked actions, it is always jealousy, or fear that gets mixed in with the pool thus corrupting it. And so again it seems to me love is incapable of being evil.

@Nanashi @7 @11112011 @laurel @p @coyote @rats @Moon I thought since you said motherly love is evil you meant that their experience was evil, but I see now you meant their actions were evil, actions you claim spawn from the feeling, rendering the feeling itself evil. I disagree that the feeling itself is evil, but I understand well that wicked actions can spawn from feelings of love.

@Nanashi @7 @11112011 @laurel @p @coyote @rats @Moon When I speak of love, I speak of the feeling, the ride. Sitting in that sports car, and putting a fan in front of you so your hair can blow while you remain stationary is not the same as driving it, even though it may look the same.

@Nanashi @7 @11112011 @laurel @p @coyote @rats @Moon You're talking about loves mechanical properties but that does not fulfil the experience of having felt love. I am in agreement with your assessment of the logical mechanisms which playout within the engine of the sports car we call love, but knowing how it works and riding in it are two different things.

@Nanashi @7 @11112011 @laurel @p @coyote @rats @Moon Well maybe I misunderstood you, when I see "Motherly love is evil" I see a contradiction, love, motherly or not, is never evil. True love. True love is letting go and finding peace. It is not war, oppression, or any such thing.

@rats @moth @7 @Moon @p @11112011 @coyote @laurel @Nanashi Wolves and all animals are stressed tf out nearly all the time, nature is not a Disney movie it is brutal and full of rape and mutilation and brutality

@p @7 @11112011 @laurel @moth @coyote @rats @Moon @Nanashi I think you can, and it is evidence of the inverse of what you're saying, dogs and cats are capable of projection

@Nanashi @7 @11112011 @laurel @p @coyote @rats @Moon that's projection and you know it, motherly love is objectively an infinitesimally small part of the whole. But yes, mothers can be smothering cunts.

@rats @laurel @coyote @Moon @p @Nanashi @11112011 It's one thing when it's chosen, it's a whole different monster when it's forced

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> Inspired by the work of Italian psychiatrist Amarro Fiamberti, Freeman at some point conceived of approaching the frontal lobes through the eye sockets instead of through drilled holes in the skull. In 1945 he took an icepick[n 16] from his own kitchen and began testing the idea on grapefruit[n 17] and cadavers.

> Freeman performed the first transorbital lobotomy on a live patient in 1946. Its simplicity suggested the possibility of carrying it out in mental hospitals lacking the surgical facilities required for the earlier, more complex procedure. (Freeman suggested that, where conventional anesthesia was unavailable, electroconvulsive therapy be used to render the patient unconscious.)[137] In 1947, the Freeman and Watts partnership ended, as the latter was disgusted by Freeman's modification of the lobotomy from a surgical operation into a simple "office" procedure.[138] Between 1940 and 1944, 684 lobotomies were performed in the United States. However, because of the fervent promotion of the technique by Freeman and Watts, those numbers increased sharply towards the end of the decade. In 1949, the peak year for lobotomies in the US, 5,074 procedures were undertaken, and by 1951 over 18,608 individuals had been lobotomized in the US.[139]

> The use of the procedure increased dramatically from the early 1940s and into the 1950s; by 1951, almost 20,000 lobotomies had been performed in the United States and proportionally more in the United Kingdom.[7] More lobotomies were performed on women than on men: a 1951 study found that nearly 60% of American lobotomy patients were women, and limited data shows that 74% of lobotomies in Ontario from 1948 to 1952 were performed on female patients.
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>craziness and the family environment
I remember reading a lot R. D. Laing some time ago and he did a lot of work on how in most cases it was the parents and/or other members of the family who were in need of psychological therapy, rather than their children who their parents were bringing to him to be treated.
Really ties with the discussion of how our social references define our very being.
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I’m a free speech absolutist because, as far as speech goes, I hate everybody, but, as far as actions go, I’ve always tried to be a good person and help everyone.

People who claim that there must be «no tolerance for the intolerant» usually ignore this divide between actions and words, probably because, in their own minds, it does not exist.

In any case, if everyone was tolerant, or if we only tolerated those who were also tolerant, how could tolerance be a virtue? Being good only to those who are good to you does not make you a good person. Virtue has value only when it’s faced against its opposite.

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@mer I thought it was some weird old name for what I assumed was cherry syrup T-T

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