@sim
That's the thing.

Few years ago, he gave up and broke. That was before I knew him. He got into the debt with intent to just spend the money and leave.

Then, he got better and even got a professional help. He has been working his ass off to get out ef debt etc.. But when the government lockdowns hit, company cut his pay, hours and he got a lot more ready to leave again...

@LukeAlmighty Ahh, that makes a bit more sense. I can understand how being stuck in that situation would cause him to get ready to leave again. It seems like a hopeless situation to be in. I hope he is able to find help again, these are difficult times to be in. The debt thing was silly, but you don't tend to think straight when you are ready to tap out.

@sim
@Shinobufag
@Laconicif
@guizzy
Anyway, thanks for taking the moment to talk with me about the topic. I realy needed to take this shit out of my system...

@LukeAlmighty @Shinobufag @Laconicif @guizzy No problem. Glad it could help you to at least get the topic off your chest.

@guizzy @sim
That is one thing where I am sure he realizes it, since he several times already blamed me from believing total fabrications that have nothing to do with my opinions.

He has a seriously twisted picture of what I do believe, and it makes sense that my relative wealth could have shaped that opinion.

@LukeAlmighty @sim I see, so his philosophical outlook is a post hoc rationalization for feeling bad on a more basic level. "I feel bad. I'm thinking straight so it can't be me, it must be the world that's bad. Who made the world bad? Rich people." Helps him avoid dealing with clinical depression. That's a tough one to deal with.

I think best way to help him as a friend is to invite him to activities that break the cycle (feeling bad, so not inclined to do anything, so there's nothing to feel good about). Taking in sunlight, exercising, etc... I know that's the kind of stuff that helped me get over it when I was in a similar situation.

@guizzy @LukeAlmighty Yeah, I would honestly suggest doing this. If you can do stuff together that costs you both nothing then even better. Like going for walks in the park, going places that are free that interest you both like a museum. Maybe cycle together if you are into that. Ticks all those boxes of sunlight, exercising and it is an activity you can enjoy together. Or gardening if you have a garden, that's very therapeutic.

@LukeAlmighty @guizzy It's really hard to tell... this relationship doesn't seem like it is equal and benefits you both. I could also see that you buying things for him shapes things, he might be justifying taking your money by misrepresenting your views too. People have a hard time appreciating and accepting unearned gifts and money. They may end up feeling indebted to the person unless they can give something of equal value in return. Rejecting their gifts won't help in equalising the relationship even with debt in the picture. If you carry this relationship on, letting him get something small or do something with you like a house project could go towards helping there. Whatever he would like to do. Don't let him feel indebted or use you. Talk to him about all this if you feel that you can safely. Because, of course, his opinions might have nothing to do with this or you being wealthier... he might just be like this. Misrepresenting people in general, selective hearing and understanding. A character flaw of his.

@sim @LukeAlmighty Yeah, helping him financially in this situation isn't really going to help him, it might even make things worse. His problem is not how he sees rich people, it's how he sees himself. And having things paid for him isn't going to improve his self-image. You've got the right idea here with asking for his help. He's more likely to feel better about himself if he feels he's contributing.

@guizzy @LukeAlmighty Yeah, I think people generally feel better if they are contributing. Particularly if you want to improve self-esteem. Hopefully between us we've given some good advice or things to think about. Also, you could still pay for the food if you have your friend over to help on a project. That is generally acceptable. He could even bring something small along himself if he wanted.

@LukeAlmighty

Probably got his brain fucked with lack of nutrition too. Needs his omegas and Bs

If it's a lack of solid purpose for himself, and he doesn't mind it, throw me his contact please.