@Mac_CZ
Well, that's one way to reduce the carbon footprint.

@LukeAlmighty Ah, and is something that no one person should ever be allowed to decide.

This especially. There are people you don't like because you don't understand them, and there are people you don't like because you *do* understand them.

The problem is most people are inclined to fool themselves into believing they understand people that they actually don't. Ingroup preference and all that.

If you give half a shit about ethics you should not want to have this power. You'll just end up killing good people, and leave others to suffer the consequences of it.

@dave @Zerglingman
Well, well, well, look at that.
We disagree again.

When it comes to the question of having any power, and not having it, declining it is the selfish choice, since that means not being able to help those who need it when the correct time comes.

@LukeAlmighty @dave @Zerglingman That's assuming you're benevolent and altruistic, which we might know ourselves to be, but many people are not.

@Jens_Rasmussen @Zerglingman @dave
No.
People who are not benevolent do always get that power. Only way to stop them is to have the same power yourself.

2nd amendment argument in short.

I support the 2nd Amendment, but I reject the idea that you should be able to kill people that you don't like.

@dave @Zerglingman @Jens_Rasmussen
I don't like people pointing a gun at me.
And I think they should die.

@LukeAlmighty @dave @Zerglingman The government points a hypothetical gun at you at all times.

@Jens_Rasmussen @Zerglingman @dave
I know

@LukeAlmighty @Zerglingman @dave I wasn’t disagreeing with you. I’m just pointing out that accepting power is only an unselfish thing if your intentions/motivations are unselfish as well. And that doesn’t address the question of: If you use power to make your ideal world, is it not selfish simply because the world is your ideal, even if the ideal gives you no material benefits?

I am probably thinking in too grand a scale here. If you see someone in danger of being killed by a rampaging madman, eliminating the madman is generally an action of good. Exception might be if the victim of the madman is someone even worse, but if you have no way of knowing then it makes sense to assume the victim(s) are innocent people.