Was scrolling through Instagram videos and there was one of a mom and her daughter dressing identically and doing a little dance, and EVERYONE IN THE COMMENTS was saying shit like "you are grooming her!" and sexualizing the fuck out of it.

The normies are not okay, man. What kind of mental torment/gymnastics do you have to go through to see that and view it as sexual?? :meru_amgry_succ_noises:

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Since you were a little child
In every single TV show. In every news segment. From every adult. All I ever heard was:
> Fucking kids is bad. Looking at kids is bad. Helping kids is prety much grooming. Joking with kids is predatory etc.

Any interaction of above 18 with below 18 is shown as not only illegal, but straight up evil. And this was done for so long, that now, people no longer have the mental framework of how to treat kids at all in a non-structured way.

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BTW, this is just another extension of the good old "conscent form" problem.

These people have been complaining about what is "bad" for so long, that now, the only good alternative is a fucking legal document.

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But the base is simply in assuming, that all alcions could end up bad, instead of all actions can end up wholesome.

(I am still fighting with just how deep this distinction is in my own mind right now.)

@YTFoidLover1488 @LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy Why the hell is there a "proposer" and "consenter"? If adults are all equal and have equal agency, they should have identical roles. This implicitly makes the whole thing unequal, and even more transactional.
@PunishedD @LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy idk ask an autist that seriously demands an agreed upon UML activity diagram with accompanying extended state automata to formally define sex protocol what is wrong with it

@LukeAlmighty meanwhile they were all actually doing bad shit to kids behind the scenes

@LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy >Any interaction of above 18 with below 18 is shown as not only illegal, but straight up evil. And this was done for so long, that now, people no longer have the mental framework of how to treat kids at all in a non-structured way.
That last part is key, and it's what makes me think the "pedo panic" of the Sinead O'Connor era was a psyop. Not that people don't groom kids or worse, but that it caused the wrong type of paranoia. Nevermind that molestation frequently happens in structured environments (like schools), we can't let the neighbor who is a grandpa with grandkids out of state (splitting up families is its own problem) take our son fishing because surely that's a grooming setup! Hell, I've even dealt with self-policing stuff as a dad when I'm playing with my own kids and one of their 'friends' they just made comes up to me and wants to join us or is talking to me. Who is going to see the grown man playing soccer with their kids (and my own) and think they need to call the cops? You don't know these days, and it's sad.

@BowsacNoodle @beardalaxy
I remember, that I was at my sister's house, and her kid just lied back to back with me. (he needed a few minutes rest)

I knew it was normal, and I knew he felt safer that way... But the programming was screaming in my brain. Because that was not something the current framework considers normal.

That moment kinda broke me on the topic.

@LukeAlmighty @BowsacNoodle I had a little girl come up to me and give me a hug while I was performing a few weeks ago and I froze for a second, freaking out that if I hugged her back her parents would get mad at me or something. I ended up doing it anyway because how am I gonna just not hug a kid who is happy to see me? But still, the fact you even have to worry about that shit sucks.

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Man....
I am speechless. :FeelsSadMan:

What kind of an inhumane shit do we actually live in never stops to scare me.

@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty Yup. That's the type of stuff that always made me sad that it even has to be a thought. Taking child to friend's house and "Hey Uncle Bo'!" bear hug from toddler age daughter and it's so cute, but every dude on earth who isn't a degenerate probably feels concern over perception of impropriety.
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