@tomie
Well, not for long

@LukeAlmighty for as much as needed
"roasties who abort for fun" is a misogynistic internet lie coined by incels; abortions are a necessity, and that includes women who are already mothers and would like to continue to take care of their children instead of dying or whatever else can happen that can warrant a necessity for abortion

@tomie
Even when I agree with you, you cannot just take the W, and have to prove me wrong no matter the cost :D

I said, that I support it, yet, you have to bring the most obvious boring arguments, that everyone heard before just to start an argument -_-

Women

@LukeAlmighty 💅

@tomie
Also, stop defending the worst offenders by denying their existence,

It makes you look pointlessly unreasonable.

@LukeAlmighty not defending achieves nothing when it's "us" vs "them"

@tomie
It defines, who you see as "US".

If you see people who do abortions for fun as "us", then you are also creating pointless amount of "them" in exchange.

@LukeAlmighty literally nobody is doing abortions for fun, so it's us against those who would like to strip all basic rights from us

@tomie
We're literally talking about murder.

And you know I don't agree with the concept of "basic human rights" to begin with, so this argument fails on 2 layers.

You can do better.

@LukeAlmighty why yes, we are literally talking about murder of women and how "they" want to legalize it wide-scale, finally you're getting it
so yes, women who want abortions are amazing and deserve all the love and life ❤️

@tomie
What are you even doing right now?

You're acting like an NPC ffs.

@LukeAlmighty I am defending existing life in face of murderous men ❤️ it's noble and just

@tomie
Ok, come back once you're sober.

@applejack
Well, my point is, that while I do believe in the utility of the abortion, since it's better to raise 3 well rounded members of society, then 6 criminals who's mom went insane trying to feed them.

But, I despise pro-abortion activists, because they cannot even do as little of honest debate, as to call it a murder.

@beardalaxy
Well, hard question for sure. We do have many legal frameworks for murder for similar reasons already, but the funniest part is, that the case you now described is exactly the one, that abortion would theoretically minimalize.

@LukeAlmighty abortion would minimalize literally everything bad happening to a child/person ever. It's not really a good argument. You can't tell the future and people deserve the chance to make it their own, even if there is hardship. I mean I haven't had it the greatest, and I was an accident child. If I were aborted, sure it would have removed all the negativity I've had against me and that I've added, but it would also remove the positive effects. You can't really quantify that either.