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"Granddad, how did the US republic collapse?"

"Well it all began when the ugliest, most horrid people imaginable took over the entire government and said that anything decent was actually evil, then everything else just kind of fell into place"

@realcaseyrollins @matana @travis
Interesting destinction.

Death of mother is the line? Her life is ruined. Reputation gone, She's unable to go to school nor feed the kid. A kid, she had to carry for 9 long months and give a birth to, only because she got attacked?

I get, that you are trying to put a hard moral lines into place, but I would offer this line instead. You can live productive life or life on support. If you live a productive life, generations after you are better off then you were. If you live on support, the opposite is true. Kid made from rape will push both his mother and himself deep into the support just by being born under such circumstances.

@realcaseyrollins @matana @travis
Damn... How to start with this one.
First off, thanks for being honest. Some debates are just hard. Especially ones involving murder.

Now, to the abortion debate. I have nothing against abortion, but I am not stupid enough to claim it is not a murder. But a stable society needs some building stones to work properly.

Even to survive, every kid needs AT LEAST ONE parent that wants them. I think that one is not controvertial. Kid also needs someone capable of feeding it, and let's say that also taking a relatively good care of it. I would STRONGLY recommend a second parent, but that is not exactly a survivor need.

If a 10yo got pregnant by a criminal, the criminal CANNOT be allowed to become a father. He must go to jail/execution. What about the kid then? If it was born, the stress/hardship could kill the mother and the kid. In this case, a well done abortion could lead to a healthy mother having kids with a loving husband 8 years later. Win for everyone except for the kid, who would die/be killed anyway.

@matana @realcaseyrollins
BTW, I cannot re-read it, nor your responses.
They got deleted after you blocked me.

@travis @matana @realcaseyrollins
Same problem here. I said that hormonal anticonception should be limited, since it is now used even as a cure for acne, and was acused, that I want it restricted even for people that need it to live a life without pointless pain.

@ChristiJunior @judgedread
When I think about it, it seems that average bounty hunter gets more character development then this guy... And moral justifications aswell... :ablobthinkingeyes:

> The longest uptime for a single computer that I am aware of is, as of September 2019 a whooping 15 370 days (fifteen thousand days). This is a computer onboard Voyager2 space craft launched in year 1977. So it is over 40 years of continuous operation.

:Think:

@matana @realcaseyrollins
ok, that is a noble goal.

Next time you want to do something like that, might I recomment not assuming the person you're talking to is the embodiment of bible-fucker and listen to actual arguments instead of spreading absolute bullshit about "my opinion"?

@matana @realcaseyrollins
Yeah. I am not willint to listen to you describing wrongly what my opinion is.

@matana @realcaseyrollins
>I described to you the detailed list of birth control pills usage (and my concern about the government going full retard and withholding them) and you completely disregarded that

Exactly why I cannot trust your description. You're unwillining to accept I agree with you, because you got too triggered to read it.

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