LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 @LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club

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@realcaseyrollins @travis
Ok. I think that makes this yet another topic where we find no common ground

Any questions you want to ask me about the topic?

@kino @massiveracist@neckbeard.xyz
Every time I take this test, the more lib right I get.

But how the fuck am I not totally at the bottom of progressive stack?

@realcaseyrollins @travis
And yes, I know abortion is a murder. Again, I already mentioned that, since the definitions argument is just stupid.

But you surprised me by separating sex from reproduction. This distinction is so new and pointless in this case, that you realy make me wander why do you think that is a distinction, that should change my view on the topic.

@realcaseyrollins @travis
> There are TONS of couples who can’t have kids and want to adopt and would make for wonderful parents.

I seriously do doubt that. This reminds me of the power generation debate where in theory solar panels are the ultimate solution, but in reality they are completelly useless and unscalable the way nuclear powerplants are.

@realcaseyrollins @travis
Now, that is something I cannot agree with, because I do not believe, there is enough good foster homes around.

Not to mention, you're still hiving an evolutionary victory to the rapist, but that is a long game problem.

@realcaseyrollins @matana @travis
The difference is an import one for me, since if you allow many people to live on support, the entire society will start to stagnate as a result. Not to mention, that not many people do consider such life worth living.

I try to push people I know across this line, because it truly does change how one sees their place in this world.

@realcaseyrollins @matana @travis
Interesting destinction.

Death of mother is the line? Her life is ruined. Reputation gone, She's unable to go to school nor feed the kid. A kid, she had to carry for 9 long months and give a birth to, only because she got attacked?

I get, that you are trying to put a hard moral lines into place, but I would offer this line instead. You can live productive life or life on support. If you live a productive life, generations after you are better off then you were. If you live on support, the opposite is true. Kid made from rape will push both his mother and himself deep into the support just by being born under such circumstances.

@realcaseyrollins @matana @travis
Damn... How to start with this one.
First off, thanks for being honest. Some debates are just hard. Especially ones involving murder.

Now, to the abortion debate. I have nothing against abortion, but I am not stupid enough to claim it is not a murder. But a stable society needs some building stones to work properly.

Even to survive, every kid needs AT LEAST ONE parent that wants them. I think that one is not controvertial. Kid also needs someone capable of feeding it, and let's say that also taking a relatively good care of it. I would STRONGLY recommend a second parent, but that is not exactly a survivor need.

If a 10yo got pregnant by a criminal, the criminal CANNOT be allowed to become a father. He must go to jail/execution. What about the kid then? If it was born, the stress/hardship could kill the mother and the kid. In this case, a well done abortion could lead to a healthy mother having kids with a loving husband 8 years later. Win for everyone except for the kid, who would die/be killed anyway.