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@matana @ArdanianRight
It is truly amazing, that when it comes to raising a kid, you describe it as a fate worse then death to people, who want nothing more in their lifes, but slaving away for a woman who takes away your right to ever see that kid seems to you ok?

@lichelordgodfrey @LukeAlmighty @matana I mean, yeah, the ruling class created this entire system to begin with, turning women into psychopathic whores and weaponizing them against men makes it more difficult for genuine organizing against the You Know Who'se in the first place.

LukeAlmighty is frustrated by a system that, by design, privileges everyone else at his expense then blood libels him as the most privileged participant with the most options. Its unspeakably infuriating.

@matana
Thank you again for proving my point.

There is no better proof of women lacking even slightens semblence of empathy, then me outlining the exact fears of enslavement, as well as deep desire to be a father, only to get this as a response.

Do you realy not see just how heartless you sound? That is exactly why I said what you archived. I have never seen an object to be so pointlessly cruel.

@matana
Object never told me, that I have to get a vasectomy, if I don't want to be enslaved. You did.

My point stands.

@lichelordgodfrey @matana
I am not simping for billionares. I am just showiing, that this situation is so fucked up, even billionares cannot get around it.

@matana
Oh, you're archiving my hot takes :omegalul:
Well, now that is a new kind of compliment.

@matana
And this mythical option to "opt out" simply does not exist here. And I strongly doubt it does in Russia either. Some laws are just never enforced. Same as prenup. Do you REEEEELY think, that we would see so many whores leaving Billionares with enough money to start a nation if prenups were being enforced?

Or do you think that Bill Gates is just too poor to get a good lawyer? :AsukaSmug:

@matana
As always, missing the point completelly.

Where the fuck did I say I do not want to be a parent? BITCH, there is NOTHING I WANT MORE!!!

But I said PARENT. Not a slave to some unfaithful whore who just happens to give a birth to my biological sun (if I'm lucky), who I'll see twice per year (if I'm lucky), and have to pay for regardless.

@matana
Yeah.... So the only way to not get enslaved by a random whore is to make myself infertile...

Good idea... Much argument.

@matana @ArdanianRight "a tiny financial price" yeah you literally get locked in a cage like a fucking animal if you dont pay for a womans choices. Also I love how your first instinct as a woman is to completely invalidate male vulnerability but double down on how awful and valid female vulnerability is. Abortion, pregnancy and childbirth are nowhere near as painful as male genital mutilation, fuck you.

@ArdanianRight Just falcon punch the woman so hard that she coughs out the fetus.

@matana @PrettyHateMachine @ArdanianRight @xianc78
Man do not have a choice if they want to be a parent or not in most of the civilized world. As soon as his sperm leaves the body, if woman happens to get pregnant, the guy is enslaved for the rest of his life.

Even, if he was sperm-jacked. So please. I could agree with you about birth being painful. About periods being stressful, and about women being afraid of strong drunken man. BUT PLEASE, spare me of the "Man have a choice" argument. They don't have it.

Honestly men being able to opt out of parenthood themselves would likely reduce violence against women, because some dudes get desperate and kill the girl because they can't afford the child support, especially black men. Adopting a "pro-choice" stance on both ends would clean up a lot of things, but this is one instance where the man is still expected to be a chivalrous provider even when he's been stripped away of all the traditional privileges of manhood.
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The women who say that men should be forced to have vasectomies before talking about women having abortions conveniently leave out that men are already legally on the hook for 18 years if they get a girl pregnant and she keeps it, even if the bitch deliberately sabotaged his contraception for that purpose. Guys already have no autonomy if they get a girl pregnant. But if there's anything feminists value more than their autonomy it's their ability to be financial parasites on men.
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