bit moralfaggy, but fan fiction is really cringe and it is indeed destroying western fiction

@matrix it's destroying eastern fiction too and it's a blight on every community

@matrix then western fiction is cooked since at least the Epic of Gilgamesh (fujoshi fanfiction) or at least Divine Comedy (self-insert self-shipping fanfiction)

@tomie Calling a story about two male friends fujoshi fanfiction is pure fanfiction brainrot. There's nothing wrong with fanfics, derivative works or shipping. However there is a big problem with fanfics and that is people insisting their favorite fanfic is canon and also when writing fanfiction you don't practice character development or world building much so you don't improve your writing skills as much.

@matrix @tomie essentially, fanfiction culture is retarded, but writing it isn't inherently retarded. Fanfiction can be cool if it develops the IP further, like some of the star wars stuff. I know a lot of writers get started by writing fanfiction too, literally every writer I know including myself started by writing fanfiction as a kid/teen. It helps you practice with an already established world. The key is to make sure you are working on transitioning to your own characters and worlds at some point.

Well, it would be nice if the owners of the IP stopped decrlaring expanded universe as non canon or if most people writing fanfiction today are political activists who just want to inject their political leaning in what they like

@beardalaxy @matrix @tomie *mumbles* "It's not fanfiction, it's long term support for a character the OEM stopped providing updates for...."

@matrix "male friendship" does not exist and you just admitted that you never read the source material

and being consistent with pre-existing characters and worlds is much harder than making shit up on your own, that's why the majority of localizations and adaptations suck

@tomie
>"male friendship" does not exist
Feminist brainrot

You're just looking at history through a modern lens.
Before homosexuality entered public consciousness people were more comfortable being around the same sex naked and friendships were more physicals, you can see remnants of this in women, female friends still occasionally kiss.

True, but just by making non-canon ships you are already choosing to not be consistent.

@tomie @matrix This isn't twitter. You don't have to post dumb shit in an attempt to engagement farm.

@tomie @matrix DUDE, YOU'RE FEMALE

FRIENDSHIP TO YOU IS AS COLOR TO A MAN BORN BLIND
@tadano @matrix @tomie THERE'S A CHEATCODE FOR THAT:
WOMEN'S CHILDREN ARE THEIR ONLY FRIENDS
@tomie @matrix bros before hoes was not an invitation to touch tips

@tomie @matrix exhibit A of proving the video's point: fujobraned revisionism :kiarasmugmsp:

@matrix
I'd argue that fan-fiction culture is more of a symptom of the times than the cause itself. Hell, you'd think she would've focused on the Current Year commonalities more instead of being distracted by the smut.

@colahpse It not unlikely she's mistaking a symptom for a cause

True. I think it's one of the reasons modern writing is so trash in general. Pretty much fanfiction tier.

@matrix

Is more like the Industry employing fanfic writers instead of competent one.

@matrix Your average fanfictionfag is just writing original shitty walls of text but assimilating recognized characters. Even if they like the original thing they usually like it for the wrong reasons and thus don't understand it at all.

@matrix
I disagree with the premise itself.
Fanfiction is NOT the problem, copyright law is. Without it, the very concept of fanfiction cannot even exist. You just have heroic characters in a shared consciousness, and a tribal freedom to tell stories with them in it.

Oh, what adventures did Thor face today? Let me tell you...

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