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@matana
Sorry, but I have to.
While there are serious problems for men like devorce-rape, general absence of empathy for men's suffering etc, there are some cases, that I sriously cannot even count as an arguments.

Example: (woman stabbed her BF with a knife, and the judge just didn't care.)
thesun.co.uk/news/3580232/lavi

Although, that did not remove the important part of the comment, being, that women can be seriously afraid of becomming trapped in an abusive relationship.

Still, I do not think that a case of crazy guy saying things like "you are my property", "you worth nothing", "I'll kill you if you don't obey" are conductive to the conversation, when I was talking about life goals and primary drives described by the line "I don't feel like I need a man right now".

@Raynbo@rayn.bo
"A harm reduction"?
We're not censoring you, we're reducing the harm you're doing to others...

WOW... FUCK THAT GUY :drink:
This is the scariest video I saw today...

@matana
Thanks for a long response. Although, I have to ignore the "extreme parts", because, there are always extreme parts :kekw:, There was still a lot of things that I will have to think about.

@matana
Ok... I am sorry if this question will sound weird, but I myself have not even managed to form my thoughts about this concept yet. But while talking to many women on fediverse and IRL, I have noticed a disturbing patern.

How much do you want to have a family and kids one day? Most men I know do literaly LIFE for that thing. They wake up and go to work, study, risk their lives and save money on their bank account only so it will be used when they will have a family and a kind wife. And if you deny them the option, they willl go into years long depression.

Yet, when I talk to women, I get phrases like "I don't feel like I need a man right now". You would NEVER get most men to say such a terrifying sentance.

@matana Are you from USA?
I a, asking, because the "religeous abstinence teaching policy" you're talking about is definitelly not thought here. (and I even went to a religious school at that...)

@matana @Economic_Hitman
Nah, feel free to lash out. It is important to get your point across. Expecially since you have a good reason to talk about the topic.

And I am a libertarian in nature... I won't support baning of almost anything, as long as you let individuals bear consequences of their bad actions...

@matana @Economic_Hitman
It is obvious this one hit a nerve, so I won't push too much.

First: We were talking about rise in improper use of technologies. Everyone knows, you can use a technology in a good way. That much is obvious. The prolem is, that technologies like birth control and anti-depresants is that they do affect you as a person.

My favorite example of this are sacharids. When people started mass producing food, it was obviously good overall, but noone has the ability to see their own internal mechanics well enough, to understand, that increase in sacharids causes insulin spike, that increases hunger and body's will to store food to unnatural levels and will cause obesity over the years..

@fuxoft
Nothing makes me happy more then seing state starting to use propaganda for shit like covid...

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