@alyx
You cannot join all factions.
That is GREAT, and the thing I hate about Skyrim/Oblivion.

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@LukeAlmighty
It's obvious that the reasons they made it so you can join every faction in one playthrough is that they don't want people to miss out just because they're not willing to start up multiple characters.
But this only highlights the true flaw of modern TES: the games aren't sooo good that they make players want to start up a new character as soon as they finish the first.

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@alyx
I seriously do get a worldbuilding whiplash while playing Skyrim, because I cannot tell, if I'm supposed to be a relatively strong person, or a GOD among men.

@LukeAlmighty
You're more like a god incarnate. A sort of Jesus. Sure you can do the equivalent of miracles, but you're not exactly immune to being killed by unbelievers.

@LukeAlmighty @alyx this is why my best skyrim experience was doing an alternate start mod where i wasn't a dragonborn and the main story didn't exist, i just went around doing quests for people and doing the civil war stuff.

that combined with a mod to let me kill anyone meant i started doing the thieves guild quest begrudgingly to get a gem appraised but once i found out there were like 100 others i had to collect to make it worth it, i stealthily wiped out everyone in the thieves guild except a kid they had who i adopted.

@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty
I envy people who can go on killing spree's in their roleplays. I can never commit to something like that, cause I'm always concerned about missing out on quests or some dialogue down the line or something. Even when I know Bethesda is Bethesda, and important NPCs are immortal and would ultimately kill you if you as much as look the wrong way at them.

@alyx @LukeAlmighty I get into it haha, I role play the character as best as I can.

@alyx @LukeAlmighty most of the time, I don't even get through the game's story with a character and make a new one instead. If I only knew how many Skyrim characters never made it to the greybeards

@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty
With whatever character I make, I'm obsessed with completing everything I can with them. Only times a character remains unfinished is if I get bored with the game, and by the time I come back to it, I completely forget what I was doing, what I was roleplaying, what build I was making, so I just start over.

As for roleplaying, thinking back, I think I manage to get most immersed in Fallout. There's something about the pseudo-realistic partly sci-fi setting that appeals more to me than full-on fantasy. I also prefer shooters as a genre, so works well for me for the rest of the gameplay too.

@alyx @beardalaxy
I have this sissue with Witcher 3.
I am way too deep to deep into the story to begin again, but I seriously don't feel like playing with full quest log, 300 potions and more systems then I can wrap my head around.

And even, after I switched it to easy, it just wasn't the same.

@LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy
I know the feeling. Over-complicated systems and too much content thrown at you at once is one of the reasons why I'm slow to pick up and really enjoy a RPG. It took me YEARS, and multiple attempts at playing Mass Effect, before I finally managed to fall in love with the series. I tried playing Mass Effect 1 back when it released, but didn't actually finish it until after Mass Effect 3 came out.

@alyx @beardalaxy
I tried playing fallout tactics 2 times. Get bored after 1 mission.

Try it 3rd time, complete in one sitting.

Try 4th time, bored... WTF???

@LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy
Usually after I manage to get past that hurdle of finishing it the first time (and if the game's good obviously) I've got no problem of playing it another few times.

@alyx @LukeAlmighty I wouldn’t mind if the beginning wasn’t so long and drawn out not red dead 2 bad but still

@freddie_the_fed @LukeAlmighty
Skyrim? It kinda depends what you'd count as beginning. Just Helgen, I'm fine with it. Doesn't bother me. But if you include the few immediate quests until you get to Graybeards and unlock dragon shouts, so you can be free to explore the world with all the gameplay elements unlocked, it's a hell of a chore.

@alyx @freddie_the_fed
KOTOR...
The game is linear the first HALF... or at least it feels like it.

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