@coded_artist why is this bad, exactly?
@Herman_Hetherington @coded_artist i think there is a future where people will be able to functionally transition to the opposite gender and, other than outlawing that, there is no possible way we will prevent it. it won't even be with dead people's body parts or anything, it'll all be synthetic and artificial. there will be literal test tube babies at some point in the future, i'm sure of it. are we really going to classify them as sub human because of that? interesting times ahead, even if we don't live to see them.
regardless, i don't see that as being a reason we should deny infertile women who WANT to have kids a potential way to do so. it is actually amazing that this is possible. having a kid is life changing and it's great that she and her husband can experience that.
also, the woman who received the transplant was not 40 she was in her early 30s. it's not a whole reproductive system replacement it's just the uterus for a specific disorder where women are born without one.
@Herman_Hetherington @beardalaxy It didn't go to a tranny.
I don't think that's possible... yet.
The specific case is this (pic related).
Woman born without a fully formed vagina got a 16 year old vag.
On the surface there's nothing wrong with it, but as I've stated, this is without a doubt another Pandora's box.
And they'll try it on trannies, I'm sure.
You're right, just not yet.
@coded_artist @Herman_Hetherington not a vagina, a uterus. the transplant still requires the rest of the reproductive system to work.
@Herman_Hetherington @coded_artist i don't think i know a single person that doesn't have some sort of mental illness/disorder/deficiency these days, honestly. so inheriting something like that is already extremely likely. being raised by trannies on the other hand is a fate i wish upon no child.
@Herman_Hetherington @coded_artist yup, we're all on fedi
@beardalaxy creates more demand for organ harvesting which is already a vile market, on top of providing a way out for women that shouldn't be reproducing.
@coded_artist nobody is going to illegally harvest wombs for the black market. you have to first realize why the black market for organs exists to begin with, and that's for life saving organs like lung/heart/liver/kidney when they can't be obtained quickly through legit channels. nobody is going to go to the black market for a uterus because their life isn't in danger. the amount of people born without a uterus is incredibly small as well, compared to people dying of organ failure.
then of course you have the fact that this is pretty much brand new tech, that requires a bunch of other brand new tech to work correctly, and needs high compatibility. no point in a black market for that. maybe one day if it becomes way easier and accessible, but for now i don't think the black market is a worry for a womb transplant.
@chainsaw_appreciator @coded_artist i would reason a guess, yeah
@chainsaw_appreciator @coded_artist the market really isn't there for it
@chainsaw_appreciator @coded_artist when you think about the amount of women born without a uterus versus the amount of people who need a heart/lung/kidney/liver transplant, the number probably pales in comparison. isn't worth the hassle, especially because you would also need to get black market immunosuppressants. black market ivf. then a black market c-section. can't imagine anyone is going to do that just because they want a baby lol.
@chainsaw_appreciator @coded_artist well if they're doing it for sport then they would be doing it with or without a woman being able to go get it legitimately done lol.
@beardalaxy @coded_artist
It isn't bad by itself, but it again points to the childlessness crisis, since we're at a necromancy phase of trying to cope with it, instead of just taking women's rights away the easy and moral way.
@beardalaxy @coded_artist
So, it's like giving an addict more booze. Or a machette to a homeless person.
A normal act by itself, but it will lead to more destruction in THIS context.
@LukeAlmighty @coded_artist okay so the answer is just "because woman bad"
@beardalaxy @coded_artist
Nah... Women good.
Families even 1000 times better.
@LukeAlmighty @coded_artist you do realize that if a woman wants to have a kid without a family she can just apply to get impregnated from a sperm bank, right? something like a uterus transplant helps women who are completely infertile because they don't have one to begin with.
@LukeAlmighty @coded_artist imagine you have a wife who is infertile but has the ability to have children because of a womb transplant. i'd be over the moon dude.
@mischievoustomato @coded_artist @LukeAlmighty somehow that doesn't surprise me in the slightest
@beardalaxy @coded_artist
Man... how long do you read my posts for?
Do you seriously need me to explain the cruelty of career promise and forcing women into 17 years of brainwashing in state mandated prison?
I expected a better from you, then to jump onto a strawman.
@LukeAlmighty @coded_artist literally what does that have to do with giving women who were born without uteruses the ability to have children? what difference does it make if a woman has rights or not in this scenario? do you think that a woman without a uterus is a strawman.....? because that's literally what the OP is about.
@beardalaxy @coded_artist
Try reading my post.
I literally said, that it isn't bad by itself.
@LukeAlmighty @coded_artist okay so you're taking something good and nice and just doomposting about it basically
@beardalaxy @coded_artist
I really don't think you're in a good headspace for a balanced conversayion right now. You asked a question in anger, and I tried anwsering it in an autistic neutrality.
If you call that doomposting, then I really don't know what you expected.
@LukeAlmighty @coded_artist first of all i didn't ask the question with anger lol, i was legitimately wondering why this might be seen as a bad thing and you just come in swinging with "it's not, but women should have their rights taken away!"
i'm not mad i'm just confused as fuck as to why you're changing the subject to that. it reads as if you are saying that we shouldn't give women this ability because they don't deserve it or something.
@beardalaxy @coded_artist
Definitely not, and your first response of "because woman bad" really did read as the most boring and usual of strawmen.
So, sorry for my misreading.
I am just saying, that when we have a society-killing issue, the range of desperate copes we're looking at to slightly postpone actually solving it is telling in the slightest.
@hachi
oh, hello again rotting trash.
The bin is that way ![]()
@hachi
Does your doctor knows you're posting off your meds again?
@hachi I know. And that's why I'm worried about you.
Edit: I should have checked first, she's White, though it remains to be seen what the demographics look like for this in the future. Also whether this will end with trannies giving birth