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@dave @lnxw37a2 I think you get that number when you multiply any stats regarding blacks to scale it up to the white population, as far more white people interact with law enforcement than black people
Source: https://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/ucr.asp?table_in=2
@Jdogg247 LOL I love this
All those boomers are losing their jobs because of these stupid lockdowns while their Gen Z kids continue to be able to make money streaming themselves gaming or fapping
Pure karma to everyone who got told to "get a real job" by their parents, lol
@lnxw37a2 @Locksmith Yep. I mentioned a handful of solutions in an earlier reply toot, although I can't find it ATM.
> we don't get to "not treated differently" by pretending it isn't happening.
Ah, here lies another disconnect between us. I am not very prone to assume racism where it is not proven. Black people commit crimes at a higher rate than white people, correct? Perhaps that might explain why they interact with police officers more often.
No doubt racism against black people exists among the police forces across the nation, and it's probably not something white people have to worry about, but at the same time to blame the disproportionate amount of police interaction on racism is erroneous.
The important question here, then, probably should be does the police interact with black people because they are black, or because they have committed crimes? And in what ratio to each other?
@Locksmith @admin @lnxw37a2 Yeah this is true; I get called alt-right more often.
> I as a Black person
Ah, I see, this must be our disconnect. I don't necessarily view myself in a "bucket" of blacks with a specific chance of being shot and killed; I acknowledge that society doesn't have just black people in it.
Now, if everyone lived in racially segregated societies, your statement on likelihood of getting shot might be correct. Maybe you do, I do not know. But as the Joker famously put it, "we live in a society", and if you take the people in that society as a whole, the chance of getting killed by police is microscopic, particularly compared to other preventable causes of death.
Actually, here's an article that actually proves my point about racially segregated societies (and proves that within such a society your statement is 100% correct):
"For blacks, the lowest-risk neighborhoods for police-involved deaths were those that were racially mixed."
I do understand how for more strongly ethnocentric people, like my Mom and some of my siblings, or for those who prefer to be victims, it can be appealing to use such statistics to make things seem worse, though.
While I'm black, I don't wrap my identity in that and perform behaviors or hold attitudes. I feel like that would be racist because I'd be doing that * because of my skin color *. I mean there's one race, the human race, right?
> even though neither of us (to my knowledge) commits crimes.
Well this is interesting; I wonder how many people who got shot were guilty of something. Guess we'll never know, dead people are rarely tried and convicted. But this would be telling and show how many guilty vs. innocent people get shot.
@Locksmith @admin @lnxw37a2 I think one or two have during my time on the fedi. I've certainly been called alt-right.
@Locksmith @admin @lnxw37a2 LOL I'm sorry man, I'm a free thinker, I don't toe the political line just because Massa Democrat says so. It may be odd to see a black man defending the rights of whites, but that's just because I think their lives matter as much as the lives of black people like me. We should not be treated different or special because of our skin color.
But of course, that is counter-cultural and white supremacist talk. So be it. If striving to achieve #MLK's dream leads me to being painted as a white supremacist, I don't care. In fact, that might be a badge of honor.
P.S. I'm guessing you're being tongue in cheek, but still, this is something that I've been called which is why I'm addressing it in this way.
@lnxw37a2 What percantage of whites commit crimes over blacks? There could be a reason they interact more with black citizens than white citizens.
The issue with trying to use general population to make things seem worse than they actually are is that it's innacurate; cops have nothing to do with black people being a minority in this country. They can't choose that, they can only choose who they interact with.
And again, last year, 19 unarmed whites were killed by police, compared to 9 unarmed blacks. 9 is not 2.135 times more than 19. In fact, it flies in the face of the conclusion you're trying to fit your facts into, because cops interact more with black people than white people. If anything, it's disproportional against whites; cops interact with way more blacks but shoot and kill way more whites! Isn't that fascinating?
This is why it's important to focus on police training and not racism. The knee-jerk reaction society has to these situations is "muh racist, treat black people better, cops!" when the real issue is low standards and police unions that protect bad cops. Bust the unions and have higher training standards so that all citizens, not just black citizens, have a better chance at surviving, the cops are better at doing their jobs, and everyone is safer and the law continues to be upheld.
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