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This just in from the Government of the United States The right to peaceably assemble is permissible based entirely on your political views.This is banana republic shit now. Austin Open The Economy Petersen: Yes, it's a real quote. twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/sta #Veritas #Austin #UnitedStates

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A quote from Benito Mussolini. The quote reads: You know what we need more of? imperialism. It's integral to fascism.

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@dave @lnxw37a2 P.S. I use arrests are rates of interaction because I haven't been able to find hard stats on things like questionings on the streets or traffic stops

@dave @lnxw37a2 I think you get that number when you multiply any stats regarding blacks to scale it up to the white population, as far more white people interact with law enforcement than black people

Source: ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/ucr.a

@Jdogg247 LOL I love this

All those boomers are losing their jobs because of these stupid lockdowns while their Gen Z kids continue to be able to make money streaming themselves gaming or fapping

Pure karma to everyone who got told to "get a real job" by their parents, lol

@lnxw37a2 @realcaseyrollins

They're both valid numbers. If you want to know about the behavior of a malfunctioning node (a police officer) you measure how he treats individuals, and at the same time it can be true that profiling leads to higher exposure and thus bears out more poor results, so you don't need to be wrong about the x2.135 number, but Casey's point isn't wrong either, the per-interaction rate is where we're going to see if it's individual officers vs policy and exposure.

Question that would exemplify the difference: does the risk for black Americans decrease as they move out into less urban areas where the level of policing is lower? That would suggest that individual officers don't have an issue.

@lnxw37a2 @Locksmith Yep. I mentioned a handful of solutions in an earlier reply toot, although I can't find it ATM.

> we don't get to "not treated differently" by pretending it isn't happening.

Ah, here lies another disconnect between us. I am not very prone to assume racism where it is not proven. Black people commit crimes at a higher rate than white people, correct? Perhaps that might explain why they interact with police officers more often.

No doubt racism against black people exists among the police forces across the nation, and it's probably not something white people have to worry about, but at the same time to blame the disproportionate amount of police interaction on racism is erroneous.

The important question here, then, probably should be does the police interact with black people because they are black, or because they have committed crimes? And in what ratio to each other?

@haxonek Hey man, I really hope you join us on the other side. You are one of the few fair-minded Gabbers that I actually enjoyed chatting with.

There are plenty of instances where you'd feel right at home. NoAgendaSocial.com is probably the best fit IMO.
@realcaseyrollins @Locksmith

> I don't toe the political line just because Massa Democrat says so.

I'm not a Democrat, nor am I a Republican. I don't think it was a good move for most Blacks to wed a party.

> It may be odd to see a black man defending the rights of whites, but that's just because I think their lives matter as much as the lives of black people like me. We should not be treated different or special because of our skin color.

In that part, you're preaching to the choir. I have criticized the leaders of Black orgs when they don't cry out when someone in another ethnic group is persecuted or attacked by Blacks. (Gotten lots of "Oreo" and similar replies, too.)

But we don't get to "not treated differently" by pretending it isn't happening. You have to acknowledge the behavior that you want to change, because those who are behaving that way often won't change without pressure.

@lnxw37a2

> I as a Black person

Ah, I see, this must be our disconnect. I don't necessarily view myself in a "bucket" of blacks with a specific chance of being shot and killed; I acknowledge that society doesn't have just black people in it.

Now, if everyone lived in racially segregated societies, your statement on likelihood of getting shot might be correct. Maybe you do, I do not know. But as the Joker famously put it, "we live in a society", and if you take the people in that society as a whole, the chance of getting killed by police is microscopic, particularly compared to other preventable causes of death.

Actually, here's an article that actually proves my point about racially segregated societies (and proves that within such a society your statement is 100% correct):

psmag.com/news/police-are-most

"For blacks, the lowest-risk neighborhoods for police-involved deaths were those that were racially mixed."

I do understand how for more strongly ethnocentric people, like my Mom and some of my siblings, or for those who prefer to be victims, it can be appealing to use such statistics to make things seem worse, though.

While I'm black, I don't wrap my identity in that and perform behaviors or hold attitudes. I feel like that would be racist because I'd be doing that * because of my skin color *. I mean there's one race, the human race, right?

> even though neither of us (to my knowledge) commits crimes.

Well this is interesting; I wonder how many people who got shot were guilty of something. Guess we'll never know, dead people are rarely tried and convicted. But this would be telling and show how many guilty vs. innocent people get shot.

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I apologize for having an opinion. I will not use this in college but I don't like the bold aesthetic the large header gives off but I seriously doubt that he either is a problem, I just started listening to the existence of a citizen from the outset?

@Locksmith @admin @lnxw37a2 I think one or two have during my time on the fedi. I've certainly been called alt-right.

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