xianc78 @xianc78@gameliberty.club

@caekislove Seasteading isn't just for libertarians.

https://www.seasteading.org/libertariansonly/

I'm starting to think that the WEF keeps on talking about the ocean because they know that the seasteading movement is a genuine threat to the NWO.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/06/world-ocean-day-sustainability/

@beardalaxy I guess. I'm just tired of people posting Pepe and Wojak shit non-stop.

@beardalaxy Literally every meme post 2016 are just variants of those. People are under the impression that anything that comes out of 4chan is the edgiest shit, even though 4chan is just anon Reddit/Discord at this point.

Both Pepe and Wojack are over a decade old, but people are making variants of them like they are brand new. They probably weren't even on 4chan pre-GamerGate.

@galena Now that you mention it, yeah, BoTW and ToTK lore have a bunch of fan-fiction vibes. And now I'm starting to realize that the Zelda cartoon and CD-i games had more respect to the source material than BoTW and ToTK.

@beardalaxy I don't care how taxing it is. I want all the non-original shit filtered out.

@beardalaxy
>Eiji Aonuma has stated it does take place at the very end of one of the timelines, but never revealed which one. He's the guy who came up with the timeline to begin with so I'm assuming he isn't just talking out of his ass.

Nintendo has stated that the timeline is designed to be flexible and changable. I'm pretty sure the "Downfall Timeline" that was revealed in the Hyrule Historia wasn't always there (Twilight Princess can easily be a prequel to ALTTP). It wouldn't surprise me if they retconned BoTW and ToTK to be in their own timelines. OOT wasn't the only Zelda game to feature time travel after all, so have been many more timelines created in the process.

Also, Eiji Aonuma is a talentless hack and should have never been the producer of the Zelda series after Majora's Mask. That honor should've gone to Yoshiaki Koizumi. But apparently, Miyamoto doesn't like him very much, but Koizumi has put a lot of gameplay and story input of both Link's Awakening and Majora's Mask. Eiji Aonuma was just a level designer for Ocarina of Time and only got that position after making a Satellaview game using ALTTP's engine.

>Perhaps Zora lived elsewhere, beyond Hyrule.

The Oracle games already confirmed this. Both they and the Gorons left Hyrule to other lands in the downfall timeline.

>It tries a little too hard to be the "smash ultimate" of zelda games, so to speak.

It doesn't need to be. It isn't a good idea either because going all out when there is still life left in a franchise pretty much means that you are guaranteeing that future installments will be disappointments. Or in Zelda's case, just make things more confusing.

Really though, the proposed Zelda II sequel I made would've been a better way to have an open world Zelda game without fucking up the lore. The only problem is that the Downfall Timeline lacks the elements that modern Zelda fans would expect like Gorons, the Gerudo, and the non-hostile Zoras.

@beardalaxy It would be the most ethical use for it.

@beardalaxy AI

@matana The disdain for that crap was what I loved about 8chan.

Ad-blockers? How about browser plug-ins that filter every pepe, wojack, gigachad, and all others forms of post-2014 4chan garbage? That would be a brilliant idea.

I really don't like how BoTW screwed up the Zelda lore by taking place in all the timelines, despite all the contradictions, and taking place over 10,000 years after the previous games. But TotK somehow made it worse.

First off, why haven't the Zonai been mentioned previously? I expect the first King of Hyrule to be Skyward Sword Link or a descendant of him, not some humanoid goat. Also, why are the Rito in the early days of Hyrule? It's already bad enough that BoTW implies that the Rito existed in all other timelines, while also coexisting with the Zora. Now apparently, they've been there since the beginning.

According to the ZeldaWiki, they're talking about the founding of a different incarnation of Hyrule. Well, that's great! The Hyrule we tried to revive in BoTW is not the same Hyrule we all know and love. Up to this point, the only other Hyrule we knew about was the New Hyrule in Spirit Tracks. And why did a non-Hylian decide to re-establish a kingdom that he has no ancestral connection to? It doesn't make sense. It's called Hy-rule, as in "Hylians rule".

Seriously, BoTW and ToTK might as well be reboots of the franchise, at this point. None of this makes any sense.

I also don't find the excuse that giving BoTW a set placement in the timeline would've limited the creative freedom of the development team. They could've easily made an open world Zelda game set immediately or a few centuries after Zelda II because Zelda II's overworld is huge, possibly even bigger than BoTW's/ToTK's overworld, and for whatever reason, Nintendo has never made a chronological follow-up to Zelda II even after over three decades. It would've been much easier to go with that route instead of fucking up the lore again.

https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Zelda_Timeline#Arrival_of_the_Zonai