@dave @LukeAlmighty
Destiny clearly states: "at the very least, people who were a part of the SS, or nazi politicians". Problem is, if you were a jewish person, it wouldn't be a nazi politician that would have their gun pointed at you. It might not even be a proper SS member. It's gonna be a low level grunt, that acts on the orders of his higher-ups. So the way I see it, this being an argument of killing out of self-defense makes no sense.
Self-defense works when your life is in IMMEDIATE threat, not when "well, I'm convinced those people are gonna eventually come to kill me because of their ideology". That's not self-defense, that's acting in anticipation of a threat. It's Minority Report, without an actual clairvoyant.
What Destiny seems to argue, is that if we're convinced the Nazis are an existential threat, we are in the right to kill them.
Forgive me for not going too much farther into the stream. Maybe there are better arguments made later on in the discussion, but frankly both of them simply annoy me when they speak.
@ChristiJunior @dave
Yeah, that was the part, I was so happy for Dave to finally start defending.
@Jens_Rasmussen @dave
War is dirty. Death is inevitable.
Just don't act like a moralizing asshole about it. That is the point.
@dave
Ok.
Either way, My point was, that when you have a high tesion between 2 groups, and both of them believe, that genociding the other is justified, you cannot just go: But this genocide was defensive.
Because that is a dumb excuse, that will be always used. "They wanted to do it, so I did it first as defense" is an excuse, not a justification.
@dave
That's a new one from you, but I'll take it.
@dave
Do you? 😄
@dave
But he didn't say it either way.
He said: I see one genocide as justified, but the 2nd one as immoral.
I see why you hate this point though :D
@dave
Oh, Hi Dave.
There are several ways of looking at it.
1) The old fassion war stance.
Meaning, that every war is amoral.
That obviously ain't his point.
Or, we can take the defense point.
Well, he didn't talk about defense there, did he? He said genocide. That means mass murdering, and if jews are genociding you under the flag of defense, that means you can defend against their "defense" justyfying the supposed original aggression.
Do you see the problem now?
Welcome back to: Destiny is retarded.
On today's episode, we have "Genocide is ok when we do it"
Finalizing the Dragonslayer blade || Guts' Dragonslayer from Berserk (Part 3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6pyP5hIgIM
That is such n insane project. While other people are making cosplay-ready replicas, this idiot decided to make the sword actually as it should be. Completelly unusable.
@NEETzsche Thanks.![]()
there was a dad and his little daughter at the convenience store the other night and he told her she could buy whatever she could carry. watching this little girl try and fit as much stuff as she could in her little arms and then waddling around picking up things she was dropping and her dad just following behind her was the cutest thing ever xD
then her dad goes "can you hold any more or are you done?" and she grunts "no... i'm done" as she's trying to balance everything. man i couldn't stop smiling xD
i can't wait to be a dad. every shit filled diaper in the world is worth it for moments like that.
@beardalaxy @applejack @NEETzsche
You personally do, but then, there are posts like this:
https://leafposter.club/objects/2e30045d-b1c5-4ef6-a9f5-cf246be0d8bf
So excuse me, that I got a bit on the edge, when I hear on repeat the same retarded line I have outright said means nothing to me in this exact context. I don't need to look like Henry Cavill to sit in front of PC for 12h a day. And the fact, that I focused on studying does not mean I have no "positive habits".
And I got to hear all of that shit, while I was on my way to the fucking gym. All because you guys cannot fathom, that I don't plan on looking at a mirror 20 minutes every morning to pleasure myself or something.
@beardalaxy @applejack @NEETzsche
No, I wanted to share my thoughts on an unpleasant experience, and I received bunch of idiots repeating the exact reason, why I used to think, that every single fit person on planet is a total asshole.
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When you don't let people abuse your kids.
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