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@xianc78 yeah it is 16 bit inspired, but i'm not exactly trying to make a 16 bit game, you know what i mean? it's not crazy faithful or anything. just listen to the music hahaha. i've got full paintings and a lot higher res portraits, massive maps, and stuff like that the SNES would never allow.

but yeah it does seem a little basic and not particularly in the same, simple way as the old games. i wanted to try to make the title screen a little bit interesting but not have it be way too distracting, or have an intro video that you have to skip, etc.

i don't want the title to be super static either, though. something did feel off about the character movements though for sure. maybe it would be better to just have them static at about the halfway point of that animation, and keep the title locked to the top. or perhaps i could have the title float in at the beginning and then stay locked.

an attract mode kind of thing would be interesting, i might have to give that a shot. you can do an in-engine thing and actually this whole menu is done with map events instead of using the default title (i'd probably do a video though since that would be the easier method).

funny enough, using the default title system would be a lot closer to how classic 16 bit RPGs functioned, but i know that seeing that immediately sets off triggers in a lot of people's minds that this is just a standard rpg maker shitpost game that didn't have real effort put into it.

i've also had other people tell me that the title looks really good, so maybe i'm thinking too hard about it but yeah the animation does feel like it's a little bit too much. i'll see what it looks like with the fading and bouncing removed, maybe the snow/rain is enough to make it feel lively but not distracting.

my goal with the title screen is to make it look nice and unobtrusive, where its the first thing that pops up and the player takes it in for a brief moment before they begin the game or load up a save file. an attract mode goes against that philosophy a little bit. i know it's cool to have, but it's also sort of unnecessary fluff for my goal. that's a good suggestion though. if i was trying to really emulate those old games i'd be more apt to do that. i may still try it out if the title screen i have just isn't exactly cutting it.

i actually feel like my original title screen was a bit better. it was just the title of the game moving up and down, the options, and then a red to black vertical gradient. i think i might have tried to spruce it up a bit too much here. i still want to show off matana's art in-game though and i think the title place is a pretty good spot for that. maybe i can just remove the two characters from the sides.

we'll see, i'll fuck around with it a little bit!

@xianc78 the hyrulean civil war itself is something we know basically nothing about, but we do know ganondorf's motivations and they weren't religious.

ganondorf explains it in wind waker. he is like anakin and hates sand so he wanted to expand into hyrule so his people would have better living conditions. he tried taking it by force, which failed the first time around so he deceived everyone by surrendering and waiting for the opportune time to strike when he gained access to the sacred realm.

it wasn't about religion, it was just about ganondorf, as gerudo chief, trying to take hyrule's lands because he wanted them. not because they were of any holy importance to him.

the crusades were mainly because islam wanted to take the holy land from the catholics because they thought that the land was THEIR holy land and not the catholics' holy land. not to mention trying to convert everyone. so the catholics fought back and that went back and forth for fucking ever in several wars. that's barely similar to the story of ganondorf. his is a lot closer to stories of classic conquest. the only similarity is a leader persuading people to join him to take someone's land because they want it... but that's basically war 101.

the gerudo we see in ocarina of time have more or less been manipulated and even brainwashed by ganondorf. that is why there is tension between them, not to mention ganondorf himself being their chief and trying to overthrow hyrule would cause some disdain by hylians for the gerudo, which in turn would make the gerudo mad at the hylians.

a lot of gerudo are just kind of menaces during ocarina of time and majora's mask too, being thieves and pirates and such. but in breath of the wild and four swords adventures they're pretty damn well adjusted.

i still don't think any of it has anything to do with holiness or religion or anything like that. at best, some hylians think they are devil worshipers or something in OoT but they never like, DO anything about it.

@PinochetsCommieCopter damn bruh why did we meme ohio being shitty into existence

Is anyone else having problems with #husky not refreshing the home timeline? It's pretty annoying >~<

@duke we'd be having holey wars rn

@ROYALTY that's just people extrapolating their own meaning from it though, not the creators intending on that being the meaning. It can be important to a story and have a specific meaning, but it can just as easily not. I find that the former is more often true when the story is meant to take place in our world (like Silent Hill), and the latter is more often true when it's a completely fictional world (like Hyrule).

Besides that, Zelda hasn't used real world symbolism very much and hasn't PERIOD since the 90s. They clearly wanted to show that these are separate people from real life people. They're just inspired by them and that's pretty much where the similarities end. Their lore is entirely different, their beliefs are different, their relations with other groups of people are different, etc. You can't just assume that there are crusades going on in Zelda lore solely because two races were inspired by two real life races that were involved in crusades.

@duke imagine if the middle east looked like this... 👀

@sjw bruh why the fuck would you tell the FBI you found 7 tons of 150 year old gold

@aliss

@MischievousTomato people always tell me to get AMD stuff, and I know intel/Nvidia have their own problems, but man I'm always reading stuff about amd just underperforming or having strange issues. Emulation in particular is pretty bad and always had been.

@LukeAlmighty to think that this game is what made my roommate by a ps5

He didn't like it at all lol

@LukeAlmighty @ChristiJunior or sectum sempra, that one is fucked up. I love it.

@LukeAlmighty I saw someone yesterday who was worried that Tron Legacy was going to give their children nightmares because it was the first PG movie they had ever watched.

@pagat yeesh that sucks

Man do I hate it when people think that fiction MUST correlate to reality! The orcs = black people is just the tip of the iceberg.

There are apparently people who think that because Hylians are inspired by medieval Europeans and Gerudo are inspired by Islamic Middle Easterners, they MUST have had holy wars at some point.

Like come on... They're inspired by the aesthetics and culture of those places and people, but that's pretty much where the similarities end. Pretty sure people in the Middle East weren't almost exclusively female and required white men to get them pregnant for their race to continue.

It reminds me of people thinking that Hideki Anno was putting in all of this Christian symbolism into Evangelion but in the end he just thought it looked cool.

It's totally fine to take inspiration from history and even include a lot of the same symbols if you want, but that doesn't mean anything you make is then subject to everything that where your inspiration came from is. I have a Medieval Catholic inspired group of people in my game but they came from very magical origins and have a lot to hide regarding that. I have Japanese inspired people, but they still have a lot of European aesthetics in their architecture and clothing and their religion is closer to that of the Greek Pantheon. Both of them have rituals and other beliefs as well as general cultures that can be quite similar and quite different to what inspired them. I've got other races that are inspired by isolated tribes, Egyptians, Nords, and Elves too but they are still all unique in their own ways and do to say they because history happened one way in the real world means it must have happened there too is so off base it's ridiculous.