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i wonder if i'd still hate twilight if i watched it today without being a teenager who just hated it because it was popular to hate it :thonk:

TIL that 3OH!3 is still making music and they have been this whole time. I should listen to their newer stuff one of these days.

@wolf480pl @sigmasternchen anyone can make a "vocaloid" just like anyone can train an AI on a data set. the existing vocaloids and other voicebanks have their own culture surrounding them and that can affect the decision to use a specific one.

@sigmasternchen @wolf480pl with suno, we're talking about that lower barrier of entry thing. anyone can slap in a prompt and have it churn out something, but the results are extremely varied and you don't really have any direct control over it. it's more of a thing for quick laughs than anything else imo.

will it get better over time? yes. but there is an issue where the better AI gets, the better the pilot of the AI needs to be. if companies are looking to be that pilot, then it takes more agency away from the end user and you'll end up with something that sounds pretty, but not necessarily what you want. if it is on the end user to be the pilot, then the barrier of entry increases as it gets more complex.

plus, there is an important factor to real music and that is live performances. every major innovation in music has not killed live shows and i doubt AI will either. artists get the majority of their money through live shows, so i don't really see it as an issue in that regard either.

@sigmasternchen @wolf480pl if you want a good sounding AI it requires a lot of work on the human's part, just like vocaloids. it's just that AI has a lower barrier of entry.

vocaloid is basically its own genre of music. i see AI being its own genre as well.

as a musician myself, it's hard to be mad at something that led to this.

@mangeurdenuage @vriska @coolboymew i think they don't like interacting with people they just want to scroll through reels or whatever tf

@mangeurdenuage @vriska @coolboymew i've had a couple people come for a little bit but they don't last long. too much autism probably.

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