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@Aldo2
Yes. A shoe is meant to be worn, and a cake is meant to be eaten.

But what about cake, that REALLY deep down KNOWS it's a shoe?

@Aldo2
It doesn't want you to believe it to be a shoe. It just want's you to wear it.

@Aldo2
Of course it wasn't created as a shoe, but why are you not behaving as if it were one?

@Aldo2
Ok, you cannot use a cake as a shoe...

Why? It definitely looks like a shoe to me.

@Aldo2
So, you would put this mixture of egg, sugar and wheat on your foot beofre going to work?

Interesting...

@Aldo2
Ok, if you want to play this game:
Is this a boot, or is it a cake? Would you eat it, or would you leave it on a floor next to your other boots for a few days, and then put your foot in it and walk with it through a forrest?

@irie @ChristiJunior
Here is my point. I hate the conservative view of men. I see conservatives being proud of identifying themselves as disposable slaves on the alter of pussy, and I want to vomit.

I also hear feminists complain about being seen as a weak biological carrying pod for a breeding unit 846368. And I do see, how that would feel dehumanizing as well. Therefore, both sexes do come with an insanely negative baggage, that one would do anything to escape.

But....... Here is where I cannot bear this shit. On one hand, we have a self ID side, that decided to fucking use the same dehumanizing roles, but give you a switch button, while the other one argues for them without this magical button. So, I do understand why the troon debate is so insanely powerful driving force on both sides. But, I don't get, why is noone talking about the meta topics at all.

@ChristiJunior @LukeAlmighty I consider that a concession and a relative win for the conservative side. I remember the "what is a woman" debate and how it made the Troon camp look ridiculous to insane trying to dodge the question.

On the question gender vs. sex. Matt Walsh (yikes) had this movie where he interviewed some respected Doctor, and she (a Jew and a conservative lol) actually argued for the difference between sex and gender: how no one can change one's sex, and how gender has become this made-up identity thing.

As for OPs point. I consider the trans movement morally nihilistic, as in they don't believe in anything, they don't have any genuine values. But everything can and will be used to push through the desired social and political changes in the service of their right to live as fake women. In the bigger picture I see it as an offshoot of Liberal ideology, and a step of the process to normalized dehumanization (freedom from.. being man/woman, being human).

@Aldo2
Obviously last week has a ton to do with me not believing you are even able to do a good faith argument anymore.

Not to mention, that you started the debate with literally stating the most insane assertion and expectation, that I will accept it in full extent. Instead, if you even read what I wrote in this thread already, you could have noticed, that I did give a HUGE pass on the gender role question, but I seriously wouldn't expect you of all people to understand that point.

@Aldo2
Yes. You spent last week arguing, that I should go into den of people who want me dead, and now, you want me to accept, that Trans advocates don't know how reproduction works?

Yes, I wanted a good faith debate. Not the "sex =/= gender" stuff, that was already repeated 100s of times.

@Aldo2
Bro...I am trying to take this conversation seriously, and you jump in with "if you believe hard enough, you might grow a dick".

I am getting to tired of your bait.

@ChristiJunior
I noticed the breaking point, when they switched from talking about "gender roles" to "gender".

They mean the same thing, and when they complained about the roles assigned to them because of their gender, that all made sense. But then, they just made the switch, and literally all of the internal logic broke.

@jb
I am trying to disprove the null hypothesis. You repeating doesn't help.

To this day, I have no fucking idea how could Trans debate hone so insanely wrong. No matter how long I do spend on the topic, I cannot wrap my head around this madness, but the more interesting part is, just how little good faith debate there actually is on the topic.

Fuck... Even on Abortion, there is some gray zone. I do not belong to either camp, because I know, that both sides are trying to pointlessly escalate their position to push the overton window. But the base arguments are clear. But with the trans debate, I don't even know the last time I heard 2 people try to compate the baselines.

One day, I will take a pen, paper and start calculating just how much of my life was stolen by the state.

And I know, that once I see that number, I will never wake up the next day.

@xianc78
Because most rogue like mechanics require no cognitive power. Every choice leads to power boost anyway.

But, here they actually require you to minmax slightly, unless you want to fall back.

@Nicro @kaia
1) Goth Ihop for daily dining
2) Tomboy outback for eating with frinds and family

But most importantly, whenever you need something spicy, you still need Monstergirl Mcdonalds.

@Forestofenchantment
But try explaining to the snobs that you really don't need to know a name of the art to have your heart torn apart and be left in tears :omegalul:

They are the ones who don't get it

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