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@mangeurdenuage @rasterman @pawlicker @natsock @coolboymew @mrsaturday @Nudhul @why i can't remember what game it was, but there was a multi platform game that actually was best played on the wii u for some reason lol.

@natsock @rasterman @coolboymew @mangeurdenuage @mrsaturday @why yeah and that brand new hardware is always really expensive. you don't want to fracture your consumer base too much either. the console market is completely different from the raw hardware market, or even the phone market.

nintendo actually has released new revisions of the switch also, with better battery life, better screen, etc. but they were at most $50 more and that was just for a slightly better screen.

the other thing is that nintendo actually develops lots of games, unlike playstation and microsoft (who are publishers at best), so a lot of their money goes there instead of focusing on new console hardware for other people to publish games to. for good reason, too, because part of the reason why the switch has sold so well is because you can't get the games anywhere else (unless via emulation) and most of the games, notably the in-house ones that nintendo develops and finances, are phenomenal.

@coolboymew @rasterman @natsock @mangeurdenuage @mrsaturday @why yeah the dock would essentially have to be a translation layer of sorts. it'd get really fuckin weird. it definitely wouldn't be able to add hardware to the switch itself, so it would have to interpret all the calls coming from the switch with its own hardware or something. at the very least, that would still let the switch be played in handheld mode and it would likely be a lot cheaper (in terms of parts) to produce.

of course this is me just talking out of my ass. i don't know nearly enough about programming or the switch to know if this is even a possibility. and if it's not, i really don't know what direction nintendo goes until maybe a few years from now when it is more feasible to release a switch 2.

@LukeAlmighty the cost of a cheaper platform lol. the index is like twice the price but hey at least it won't be full of facebook shit (and it is just better in general).

@coolboymew @rasterman @natsock @mangeurdenuage @mrsaturday @why maybe "completely new console" is a bad way of putting it. an add-on for the switch, like an enhanced dock or something, might be what they shoot out. i really just don't think a portable system that's more powerful than the switch (at least, for modern standards) is in the cards at the moment. there are battery life and cost issues.

@LukeAlmighty the index is the best one hands-down, but it's gonna' cost you. unfortunately the next best is probably the oculus quest... really good bang for your buck, but you have to deal with meta bullshit.

@why @rasterman @natsock @coolboymew @mangeurdenuage @mrsaturday the switch branding and popularity is way too insanely popular at the moment, so i'm sure they are being super careful to avoid another wii u situation where everyone thinks the "switch pro" is just an addon or something (unless it really is just an addon and not a brand new console, which i think would be preferable).

@why @rasterman @natsock @coolboymew @mangeurdenuage @mrsaturday it's hard to say whether or not there will be a switch 2 or switch pro. they have iterated time and time again on their handhelds, but the only console to get an iteration was the wii with the wii u, and even then it was really in name only. nintendo is always cooking up something different and unique for their main consoles, for better or worse. given that the switch is a hybrid between these two, who really knows what they're going to do going forward. everyone is pressuring them into making essentially a beefier switch, but perhaps the logistics aren't in it for them in term of pricing it well enough while still having it be a more powerful machine (let alone talks of battery life).

my prediction is that they will come out with a completely new console that can play switch games but is not able to be played on the go, then keep developing games for the switch that are essentially boosted on the new stay-at-home console. i don't really see any other option for them at this point unless they want to release what is essentially a steam deck but locked down to nintendo stuff only, and that includes the price of the deck as well. i can't see that being a very "nintendo" move.

@natsock @rasterman @coolboymew @mangeurdenuage @mrsaturday @why i mean, miyamoto has said that iwata spent a lot of time on it, that the whole concept was pretty much his idea, and that he was the head of development. that's as straight from the source as it gets.

the switch to wii comparison is pretty large, actually. they are both underpowered for their time, they both fill an interesting niche in the market that were ahead of their time, they're both adequately priced when stacked against the competitors, and they're both completely devoid of star fox xD the biggest difference the switch has is obviously the portability, which consolidates the handheld and console market that Nintendo has down into one, making for a naturally huge success.

@sandyx @Mr_NutterButter "buying it gives jk Rowling money reeeee" they say, still buying everything else Harry Potter related

@LukeAlmighty me neither

@natsock @rasterman @coolboymew @mangeurdenuage @mrsaturday @why I honestly don't think Nintendo changed that much. A lot of stuff that came out well after iwata died was still in the oven while he was alive and acting CEO. There were questionable business decisions then, and there still are now. From going behind the scenes to shut down Project M, to not letting online Melee tournaments happen because of it being modded to do so during COVID-19 where nobody could meet in person. Iwata was closely involved in the development of the Switch as well. The Wii sold like a mother fucker and has some incredible games on it (Mario Galaxy, anyone?). The Wii U would have tanked Nintendo (due to horrible advertising, the games were really good) if it weren't for the 3DS, which still sold pretty well all things considered, and had a pretty good duration of support.
Before Iwata, you had the GameCube, N64, and SNES, all of which had absolutely amazing games but suffered from some critical design errors/business decisions especially for the time (I liken the Wii U to them in a way). You had major IPs like Final Fantasy jumping ship because cartridges didn't have enough space, and that would continue through to the Wii and even today on the switch in some cases (which has led to the horrible advent of buying streamed games).

Nintendo has incredible games, often times with really unique and polished gameplay you can't find anywhere else. They have always made very weird decisions for their systems and sometimes that has come back to bite them. They are somehow always simultaneously ahead of the curve and behind the times. The rest of the market is typically what dictates how well something they put out well be received, and you can see that tenfold with the switch. Even though it is super underpowered, it fills the handheld niche insanely well and the games are focused on good gameplay, rather than the shit many people are getting tired of from Playstation especially. As a reminder, the Switch was basically fully developed with Iwata overseeing the project. If you ask someone what consoles they have, it is likely they own a Switch. Just as it was with the Wii.

@coolboymew @rasterman @NettoHikari about as easy as it is to hack a wii. just has one of those DNS hacks, installs a channel and there ya go.

@NettoHikari @coolboymew @rasterman yeah the wii u is THE best console to have if you want to experience nintendo's entire catalog from wii u and prior. really easy to hack. it's got the best DS emulation of any device period, for the sole reason that there are two screens, and the bottom screen has all the controls on it. there is no other experience like that.

wish i didn't have to sell mine but unfortunately was hurting for money at the time.

@coolboymew @rasterman yeah it's way too simple of a game. i'd honestly love a new ice climbers game that's kind of in the same vein as kirby and the forgotten land. just a really solid and fun 3d platformer that takes place on a big mountain. maybe with some puzzles thrown in. it could even be two player!

it's kind of crazy that, of all the nintendo characters, ice climbers made their way into melee and smash in general, despite only having one (really boring) game on the NES. was it really big back in the day or something??

@CentaurBreeder @cummies if you must know, the main one's krystal. because i'm a basic bitch. i've legit got a star fox tattoo, i fuckin love star fox, ever since i became sentient.

but there are plenty more.

it's what growing up with these kinds of characters does to a nigga. pokemon, disney, the works.

@rasterman @coolboymew i'm personally banking on the ice climbers reboot

@CentaurBreeder @cummies