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@Aldo2 These politicians are not being accused of simply being pedophiles, they are being accused of going to a private island where children were trafficked. I don't think you should be trying to champion "legalizing" (the word you are looking for is perhaps "normalizing" instead) pedophilia/hebephilia in conjunction with a conversation about people who may have had a hand in trafficking and raping kids.

@Aldo2 I mean, like I said, I don't really try to label myself like that since I find labels to be reductive. I think spirituality is a very personal thing. I don't think religion is particularly great as a concept, but throwing away Jesus and/or His teachings simply because of religion isn't something I subscribe to.

@tomie Yeah, I could agree with that. People do that to this day and I'm sure they did it back then too.

@Aldo2 Jesus faced the full brunt of Roman law despite not actually doing anything wrong. Pilate only crucified Him because of the mob, who he even asked if they would rather crucify an actual criminal, and asked if they would be willing to accept a curse on their people forever. Pilate washed his hands because he knew Jesus did nothing wrong, but felt like his hands were tied (regardless of whether they actually were or not).

People are not arrested on the assumption that they are pedophiles. Nobody is arrested on assumption. People may be perhaps targeted because of it, but an arrest only comes if the state believes that they can actually charge the person in question for doing something illegal, like trying to meet up with kids for sex or owning/distributing CP. If you go to a therapist in a state that requires therapists to report crimes and tell them that you are attracted to little children, and that it causes you a great amount of distress, but have never acted on it then you still have the disorder but you will not be prosecuted.

Pedophilia is a classified disorder. Objectively. You may think something else, but I am speaking from a point of law as you seem to be ascertaining that being a pedophile is illegal. Having a disorder is not illegal, acting on it is.

In order to even have a diagnosis of being a pedophile from a psychiatrist, you need to have either acted on it (with age ranges for minors affected by pedophilia) OR it must cause distress. If a person who is attracted to underage girls does not act on it and it does not cause any distress, they are *by definition* not a pedophile.

I, perhaps incorrectly, understood you to be knowledgeable enough to know this. That's why I assumed that you already knew being a pedophile (in the sense of being attracted to children or in the objective sense of having it diagnosed) was legal. To me, it seemed like if you knew it was legal and were tying a conversation about it to child rape, then calling for it to be made legal, it would stand to reason that you wouldn't want just the ability to have that attraction/disorder to be legal, but also the ability to act on that attraction. I apologize for assuming malice where there was just ignorance.

@Aldo2 Many people would probably consider me a Christian Agnostic. I don't really try to label myself. That tracks, though, because to be completely honest I'm not sure exactly how accurate the story about the Ark and the Flood really is. It could be 100% accurate, it could be sensationalized, it could be a story told to people of the time to get them to understand principles much in the same way we have stories that have morals to them these days. I think that whether it actually happened or not is pretty irrelevant in terms of how it pertains to everyone's salvatory status so lingering on it isn't worth the time.

@Aldo2 You missed the first word Jesus said in that phrase. "Father." It wasn't a call for people to go unpunished. It was a call for God The Father to still grant them salvation. Something that was only made possible by Jesus's sacrifice. This is solidified by Him saying "It is finished." Jesus even looked to the penitent thief and told him "Today you will be with me in Paradise." He said nothing to the unrepentant thief, who still needs to go through the repentance process even in death (made possible only by Jesus's sacrifice, again).

Forgiveness is dependent on repentance. We are commanded to give forgiveness to every man, insomuch that the man repents. It means that we are not to deny anybody the ability to repent.

Forgiveness without repentance is permission. In this hypothetical, forgiving Trump for raping your daughter should be something you should do as a Christian but only if the man faces the consequences and seeks retribution. I do not think that would mean still being the President and I think this person is absolutely delusional. I believe they are essentially pandering to their MAGA constituents instead of taking a principled stance. It's the same thing with the Christians who completely and blindly support Israel. I agree that it is likely this person would not grant the same forgiveness to a random street thug.