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@arc you love to see it

This video does give me a little bit of hope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaRPJSOC7J0

@veru Salt Lake County is much more liberal than the rest of the state because it is where the city is, but as far as cities go it is still far less liberal than many others in the country. We've also had a bit of a demographic shift with a lot of people moving from California over here, which has also been contributing to the ever-increasing housing costs.

From the information that we currently know, I don't think the shooter was a Republican or a conservative. Comes from a Republican family, and allegedly donated to the Trump campaign in 2020 when he was 17, but that's it. People forget 2020 was five years ago, plus he wasn't even an adult yet. 5 years is plenty of time for someone to change, or for someone to stop trying to hide their actual beliefs. Spoken as someone who also grew up Mormon and didn't leave the church until I was 19... I can completely see a 17 year old going along with their parents and community by any means necessary and then moving away from it in adulthood. Going from that to assassinating someone is insane, but it is indicative of the current state of affairs.

@irie I'm sorry but I really do not have any interest in discussing the Israeli aspect of this any further. It is wholly irrelevant to me.

@xianc78 Nepal is crazy, but it's pretty far detached from where we are. The COVID stuff is more interesting, as are the Epstein letters, but I think someone like Charlie Kirk of all people being assassinated and the reaction to it is way more culturally, immediately relevant.

People are saying that the shooter donated to the Trump campaign in 2020.

First of all, I voted for Trump in 2020 but did not in 2024. It's been five years, a lot can happen to a person for their mind to change in 5 years, certainly.

Second, if the shooter is now 22 then five years ago he would have been 17. Not even old enough to vote. That transition into adulthood is going to change a person as well.

Third, and I've been saying this since I knew about the assassination, it does not matter who the shooter is. It doesn't matter what their motive was. What matters, and why this shooting in particular is so impactful, is the reaction to it. It is so damning.

@SpoopTheSpoopster you can buy them separately too, but I'd say if you want to play them just emulate them with HD texture packs.

@irie Personally I don't think Israel is involved anyway. There are wackjobs out there who are clearly mentally unstable and they're egged on by a culture that enables it. That is very easy to see. If you want to dig deep, you might be able to theorize that it's Israel or Jews or whatever the fuck that planted the seeds for it to get to this point, forever ago, but I don't think they were involved in this directly. To believe otherwise requires some pretty big leaps I think.

I can absolutely see some weird fucked up Mormon who was brainwashed as a child and doesn't know how to think for himself getting involved with an unsavory group of people online through an unmitigated porn addiction within one of the worst online communities ending up doing something like this. That's far more grounded in reality and, to me, far scarier than some 4D chess plot from a foreign nation.

@coolboymew that's pretty different

@irie to me it doesn't matter if they are trying to portray it as leftist violence or if it was leftist violence. the outcome of the left cheering it on is still the same and that is the worst part for what it means beyond just charlie kirk's death itself.

@teto extremely cringe

@sendpaws as i keep saying, if you don't police your community, it will get to the point where someone else will have to and you won't like how they do it.

governor cocks doesn't realize that the call for peace only reaches the ones who were already wanting it. nobody who wanted and cheers for violence is going to want peace. they haven't wanted peace for a very, very long time.

@creamqueen new covet? i thought they broke up. sweet

@berkberkman yeah that was fuckin weird