matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

Holy shit I'm so retarded I can't even remember few kana characters :pepeHang:

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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

I think I'm starting to remember them by their key presses, not sounds :pepeDread:

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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

hmmm, there does actually seem a system to this

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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

no there isn't a system, it's a clusterfuck

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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

I've got hiragana down and now Katakana

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This is difficult. I hope I don't forget hiragana now.

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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

It's worse than hiragana

シ ツ
ソ ン
ウ ワ フ

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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

I think I got kana down. Now just continuous training so I don't read at the speed of a retarded 1st grader.
And now the fun part begins, grammar, kanji and vocab :Aware:

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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

I got addicted to InfraSpace instead gg.
At least it's a fairly short game, first playthrough took me only 24h.

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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

This is retarded

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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

Woman is 女 and read as おんな
Child is 子 and read as こ
Girl is 女の子 and read as おんなのこ
That makes sense.

Guess how 女子, female is read? That's right, じょし

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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

Honestly I have no clue how you are even supposed to remember this

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gav
@matrix just keep an image of the tables, its not hard to remember once you use it a little, after a while you can just use your keyboard to remind you
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Jens Rasmussen
@matrix I wouldn't blame you for giving up.
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@Jens_Rasmussen @matrix
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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

@Jens_Rasmussen I can't give up, I wanna go there for a semester (while the lessons would be in english, I still need to be able to function)

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Jens Rasmussen
@matrix
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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

@Jens_Rasmussen

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Hitman Dan
@matrix @Jens_Rasmussen I wanna believe this comic is from 1942
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Jens Rasmussen
@Economic_Hitman @matrix The "Sailors coming home from Japan" comic series is from the occupation.
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Hitman Dan
@Jens_Rasmussen @matrix is this it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babysan
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Jens Rasmussen
@Economic_Hitman @matrix I don't believe so. I think it was called When We Get Back Home From Japan.
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Hitman Dan
@Jens_Rasmussen @matrix It looks like the comic strip "Babysan" and the book "When We Get Back Home From Japan." were written by the same author, Bill Hume. I think I need to read this... :eyes3d:
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𝖁𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖘𝖘𝖚𝖓𝖌𝖘𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖒𝖚𝖙𝖟 :sonnenrad:
@Jens_Rasmussen What in tarnation
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Jens Rasmussen
@Verfassungsschmutz British Japanese-language tourist guide from the late 19th century.
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nobullyplz :antibully:
@matrix @Jens_Rasmussen Personal system was a very old stylus phone from a forgotten drawer and a kana app from the F-Droid appstore that recognized the drawing strokes. Of course I did stop soon after, so all I know is how to sound out things but not know what they mean, like reading spanish things...
Still perfect for practice while on the toilet too :blobcatthinksmart:
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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

@nobullyplz @Jens_Rasmussen Thanks, but I can't really write much by hand so I'm not even learning the stroke, just reading.

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CapitalB

@matrix all of these scripts are retarded

Like English.

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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

@CapitalB English does have it's fair share of retardation but Roman script is imho the perfect balance between information clarity and density and ease of learning and use

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CapitalB

@matrix

Ceterum censeo Turicum esse delendum

Anybody on this world can read this.

Ching chang ching bong or tought tough dough can't.

Culture is brainwashing.

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YZZAJ

@matrix@gameliberty.club Yea the kanji for man looks like the kanji for good, meaning that a woman/female may be unaccompanied because she is adult I'd guess, and by having the male kanji next to the female kanji it implies she needs protection, and thus is a girl

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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

@Jazzy_Butts I don't think it's close but the kanji for man does make a bit of sense and pictograms make some too

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YZZAJ

@matrix @Jazzy_Butts@feral.bond Ah you're right the sloping lines are in opposite directions

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dieulast
@matrix @Jazzy_Butts Rice fields are meant to be plowed, this must be why some men are homosexual. They are looking into men too much.
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beard :meru_dab: ひげ

@matrix joshi

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@matrix you're not supposed to. That's all of etymological interest after "tenderness", the part you're supposed to remember. Just like when faced some random medical word that you don't recognize, you can intuit the meaning from remembering bits of Latin, you can get a sense of an unknown character, but that's not what you're supposed to do. What you're supposed to do is recognize the character.
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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

@apropos but that's often not possible as often the kanji are build from completely unrelated parts with different pronunciations

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@matrix kanji's worse massively overloading the characters, but if you're just reading you don't need the pronunciation at all. "A sense of what the character refers to" is enough for you to gloss over it and still get something out of the text. The spell that was just cast must be some kind of ice thing because it's covered in ice radicals, idk
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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

@apropos yes, but to be able to do that you need already need to know a lot

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@matrix the important point is that there isn't an alternative path (and definitely not a shortcut) that goes through you first learning all of these detailed etymological breakdowns of character meanings.
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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

@apropos oh yep, i know that. i'm just lazy.

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sodium hydrochloride

@matrix and that's just 2 out of 5 ways 女 can be read

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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

@matana I know, my head hurts and I've only learned like 8 kanji :jahy_pain:

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sodium hydrochloride

@matrix just don't bother, you'll catch an information overload, just memorize the simplest shit until you're ready to build some less simple shit with it, and then even less simple shit with the less simple shit, it's literally like building blocks

me, I winged irregular verbs in English (never bothered to memorize that huge list of them) and I am going to wing kanji too

save your memory for counters, because Japan decided to have like 500 of them

but at least nouns can be generated by simply throwing もの at whatever

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matrix07012 :thotpatrol:

@matana I winged English irregular verbs too, but kanji seems 10x difficulty.
Yeah that's the plan. Learning grade 1 kanji and then just reading.
Thanks for the heads up, I still have a lot to learn before I get to counters.

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gav
@matrix ぬめヌスネ
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Animegirl supremacist
@gav @matrix ねれわ
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gav
@mikuphile @matrix れわ never really bothered me
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