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@sendpaws i think that, going forward, we are going to see games with much more variable prices which is closer to how it was in the 80s and 90s. it'll be a mix of how much they think they can sell it for and how much money they spent on making it instead of just one standard price.

@KaiserKitty @smugumin there are certainly problems with some switch games, and the switch itself is a point of contention with its performance, being a mobile device using sub optimal 2015 hardware.

personally, i never wanted to play mario odyssey because of the whole moon thing, but i know a lot of people REALLY like the game namely because of the movement.

@KaiserKitty the development cost of MKW is most certainly not nearly as high as any other $70 video game, but a lot of those games end up being shit anyway. what i'm getting at is that nintendo knows the quality of their games is second to none, so they believe they can charge more for their games than everyone else.

@smugumin idk as much about capcom but i really don't think nintendo games are even mediocre, i think the only one in recent memory that is like that is probably princess peach showtime and it didn't do too well in terms of sales as far as i'm aware.

for many people, $80-$90 mkw is actually worth it and they will pay that, albeit a little begrudgingly. you'll find that they'll still sell relatively well, compared to the likes of $70 games on other platforms that we have seen go down in flames alongside their developers several times in the past couple of years. it's also why, even if gta 6 is $100, it'll still likely be one of if not the best selling video game of all time.

other game companies will try to price their games that high, for sure, and it will not work as well for them as it would for nintendo or rock star. there is a damn good reason why they are as expensive as they are and it's because they know that the quality of the game justifies the price point. whereas, you have other developers who have just blown way too much money on a bloated game and need to price it high in an attempt to make back what they spent and we keep seeing that fail.

@Mr_NutterButter nobody knows for sure, but i hear most people say that it would probably be his son.

@Mr_NutterButter i didn't really care about the aliens too much, tbh. i just fantasized about gwen :meru_lul:

yeah i've also been pretty disappointed with tlou2 for the past 5 years

@WhitestTemplar oh yeah, i'm just sayin that they now have the chance to fix that issue on the switch 2.

@WhitestTemplar the main thing that made totk lag was the building. the major issue with switch's performance often came down to the speed of the ram, which you could overclock to see some pretty radical results actually.

@LukeAlmighty the 8090 Ti XTREME either won't need frame gen to run it at max settings in 4k, or it will be using only frame gen and hallucinating the whole thing lmao.

@LukeAlmighty yeah so that's the part of you that is saying that the steam deck is worth more to you specifically, as someone who is a pc gamer. i 100% get that and it's why nintendo is the only console i'll consider getting, just for their games lol.

what i'm talking about is the raw price of the console manufacturing itself, which i wouldn't be surprised if nintendo is like barely breaking even on at most considering that valve looses money on the deck. they could have cut it back and put it at a price that seemed more palatable, but a major complaint with the original switch is that it just wasn't powerful enough so they pushed more into that territory while also pricing it competitively with similar things (handheld PCs and the other consoles).

@LukeAlmighty i think cyberpunk only looks as good as it does because NVIDIA worked with them very closely on it. i think it's the only game that actually shows off all of the tech well. it's also in REDengine instead of unreal so that helped a lot. rip redengine.

@LukeAlmighty i've seen a lot of people recently talking about how kingdom come deliverance 2 looks heaps and bounds better than any ray-traced modern graphics rendering bullshit. THEY'RE RIGHT. in stills it looks a little bit better, but then you get into motion and there's just no contest.

nintendo knows how to optimize the ever loving fuck out of their games, and a lot of their close partners do too (not you, game freak). i think the best example of it is mario kart 8dx, and the metroid prime remaster is gorgeous as well. it's crazy that you can get something like smash ultimate running at a buttery smooth 60fps with tons of crazy shit happening on screen with 8 players, and at 1080p, but then mortal kombat 10 or whatever it was ends up looking like an early bargain bin ps2 game on the same console.

i fucking hate modern graphics rendering so much dude it's the most distracting shit ever.

@LukeAlmighty i'm not talking about efficient spending at all, i'm more talking about realistic pricing. if you wanted to go about efficient spending, then you'd probably buy a used Deck and a used Switch and have a shit ton of games to play for the rest of your life. the fact is that the switch 2 offers a more compelling package from a performance standpoint than the Deck does, and for a cheaper cost versus its only somewhat comparable model. nintendo COULD have priced it lower if they skimped out on a few things but they didn't, and that's why you get the price it currently is (plus obviously inflation because holy shit the original switch would be $400 if released today).

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